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Does anyone have one in .270 or 7RM and would be willing to measure LOP for me?
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Thanks! How thick is the pad? Half inch?
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Tell me you didn't buy one in .270�...
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No, not to worry. But they sure are nice looking, aren't they. I can pick one up, NIB in .270, but I'd have to have it reamed to .280 or something. And I'd have to have about a half inch more of pad since I'm a long armed bugger.
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Thanks! How thick is the pad? Half inch? Yep. About half inch. Replace it with a Limbsaver or similar and you should be about right.
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The 270 Ruger Express I have has a LOP of 13 5/8". The hard rubber butt plate is 1/2" thick. It weighs 9# 1.5oz. with a 2.5-8 Leu.
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Very nice! A one-inch Decelerator would put the LOP right in the comfortable ballpark for me.
Thanks again.
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By the way, any idea what calibers the Express was originally made in? I know .270, .30-06, 7RM, and I'm pretty sure .375 and .416 Rigby. That about it?
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No, not to worry. But they sure are nice looking, aren't they. I can pick one up, NIB in .270, but I'd have to have it reamed to .280 or something. And I'd have to have about a half inch more of pad since I'm a long armed bugger. Rev you need to get that 270 and exercise those demons. Come on in the water is fine
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By the way, any idea what calibers the Express was originally made in? I know .270, .30-06, 7RM, and I'm pretty sure .375 and .416 Rigby. That about it? There was a 338WM for sale in the classifieds awhile back.
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No, not to worry. But they sure are nice looking, aren't they. I can pick one up, NIB in .270, but I'd have to have it reamed to .280 or something. And I'd have to have about a half inch more of pad since I'm a long armed bugger. Rev you need to get that 270 and exercise those demons. Come on in the water is fine No sense in trying to get the old boy to see the light at this late date. His system likely couldn't stand the shock. Besides, what would the pigs think?
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Ha! Y'all are killin' me! Elk might understand but I'd never hear the end of it from Ingwe. As I said, the first thing I'd have to do is get it rebored to 7x64 or something.
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Ha! Y'all are killin' me! Elk might understand but I'd never hear the end of it from Ingwe. As I said, the first thing I'd have to do is get it rebored to 7x64 or something. Don't let Ingwe fool you, he would understand. He may not admit it but would understand Come on in the waters fine
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They're pretty nice and it's tempting.
Too bad it wasn't made in 7x57!
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Just to keep Ingwe happy I did buy a 7x57, but not a 77 Express. Think a Ruger No. 1a will pass muster?
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By the way, any idea what calibers the Express was originally made in? I know .270, .30-06, 7RM, and I'm pretty sure .375 and .416 Rigby. That about it? IIRC, the Express was offered in the 338 Win that Tatelaw mentioned, 270, 30-06 and 7RM you cited plus 300 Win Mag. .375 and .416 Rigby was offered in the Magnum Rifle, plus .458 Lott. There could be more.
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Just to keep Ingwe happy I did buy a 7x57, but not a 77 Express. Think a Ruger No. 1a will pass muster? Yes..it will�.
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Did someone mention Express. I'm shooting a Merkel .470 NE,using Paladin's "full power load."
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This is with a "light load."
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This is with a "light load."
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My daughter wanted to see what a "light load" would do,so I shoot one. Here she is after shooting the .470 NE "light load."
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Elk, man that looks tough! Kudos to your daughter!!
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Ingwe, I thought you'd be ok with it. Now I have to scope it. What's on the one you had?
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Rev, I put a Leupold VX 3 1.5X5 on my 1A 7X57. It's perfect !!! Mike
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Ingwe, I thought you'd be ok with it. Now I have to scope it. What's on the one you had? Rev: What mike one said! Also a 1-4x Leupy would go good. It begs for a straight objective! Mine had a Leupold straight 2.5
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Rev: What mike one said! Also a 1-4x Leupy would go good. It begs for a straight objective! Mine had a Leupold straight 2.5 Funny y'all mention it: that was exactly what I was thinking. The VX3 1.5-5 comes with a German 4 reticle, which I absolutely love. I'm also looking at the 1.5-5 with illuminated German 4 (Firedot 4), but it has a 30mm tube. I wonder if that chubby tube might not have a bit too much bulk.
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Leupold 6.5-20x Yeah, that's exactly what I need for 45 yard shooting!!!!
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Yup,that way you can pick out a tick on the pig and kill it too.
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Yup,that way you can pick out a tick on the pig and kill it too. I'll just get one of those cannons you were shooting and be done with it. That'd knock a pig into next week.
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If you can still see Rev, That cool peep sight that goes right on the factory ring grove works well too. Might need a taller front sight though. Nothing more beautiful than a 1A 7X57 without a scope!! Mike
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Yup,that way you can pick out a tick on the pig and kill it too. I'll just get one of those cannons you were shooting and be done with it. That'd knock a pig into next week. Just make sure it's a "light load."
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If you can still see Rev, That cool peep sight that goes right on the factory ring grove works well too. Might need a taller front sight though. Nothing more beautiful than a 1A 7X57 without a scope!! Mike Yeah, but that's the problem. One of my favorite rifles for shooting from a tree stand is my 1962 vintage M94. It's short and easy to maneuver around up there. I put on a Williams FP rear and Firesight front, since the pigs generally come out about 5 minutes before pitch-black, but even then my eyes aren't what they used to be. I've thought about just picking up a Marlin 336, since it's the same length of the M94, and putting a 1-4 on it, but for some reason that Ruger kept calling my name. But you're right about the No 1a looking great "as is." IMHO, any express-style rifle (quarter-rib, barrel band, etc) looks great "as is." But for my hunting, I need something that will give me the edge in extremely low light conditions. That's one of the reasons I like the illuminated reticles. But the Leupold illuminated VX3 has this big hicky on the ocular, and it just doesn't tickle me where I itch. That and it has a 30mm tube, sort of pudgy on a No 1. I guess illuminated reticles can't be made on a 1 inch tube. Not enough room inside, I suppose.
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I'll just get one of those cannons you were shooting and be done with it. That'd knock a pig into next week. Just make sure it's a "light load." You know, I'll pass. That's just way too much for me. If I shot that twice I'd have a flinch a Daisy BB gun couldn't flinch. Interesting thing about that: My father cut his teeth on rifles and in the early 1940s the US Army soon discovered that fact. He wore a "sharpshooter" badge all the way into Normandy. His advice to me was pretty simple: "When you pull the trigger, you're going to get thumped. It doesn't make any difference if you flinch all the way to next Sunday, you're going to get thumped. So concentrate on the shot and make the thump count." It's not very scientific but it it's a pretty good example of Midwestern common sense.
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Yup,pretty good advice. By the way,the wife shot it also and now she wants a double rifle in .470 NE.
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I shot a .470 Merkel a few times. It is the only over .40 that I ever cared much for, excepting of course the .450/400
Still, I start turning into a recoil weinie after the .375 H&H
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I shot a .470 Merkel a few times. It is the only over .40 that I ever cared much for, excepting of course the .450/500. What's so special about that one? Shoot I can become a recoil weenie way before that!
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I dunno�but I do know the 416s ( all of them..) I dislike heartily and a .458 Lott is my least favorite thus far�.
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I dunno�but I do know the 416s ( all of them..) I dislike heartily and a .458 Lott is my least favorite thus far�. I figured it was your Corbett connection. I shot a .416 Weatherby once. Once. I've never been a particularly fast learner, but that one shot was all it took.
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That's the first double rifle I've seen let alone shoot. The recoil for me was not what I expected. The rifle weighed around 11-12 lbs according to the owner. Ingwe,agree on the .416's those are just too much for me. The only .458 I've shot was the Win mag version and it was enough. Rev,we are looking at either a Merkel or a Sabatti .470 right now. Most likely a Sabatti as they are a little cheaper,but we will see,there is no hurry.
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Rev,we are looking at either a Merkel or a Sabatti .470 right now. Most likely a Sabatti as they are a little cheaper,but we will see,there is no hurry. But that WR has a second set of barrels in .30-06 for you to shoot!! Seriously, though, did you see the Sabatti on that same site I sent you? Check this out. http://www.gunsinternational.com/Sabatti-Safari-470-NE.cfm?gun_id=100400127
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That must be a new one. The one I found was a Sabatti .470 going for $5250.
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That's nice! You'll be able to knock the javelina into next week!
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And Jackrabbits into next month!
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No doubt. Be sure to post some picks when you get it.
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I will,but just letting you know,won't be anytime soon.
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10-4.
I told my wife that I'm putting together (in my head) my "retirement rifle." She said, "You haven't even gotten the one you just ordered!"
I'm expecting there's going to be a new Dodge Durango in the driveway before the year is out, and all I'm going to be able to do is smile and say, "That's nice"...through the tears as I watch my retirement rifle drive away.
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Is Sabatti an English name? I think not! If we are flying into fantasy island, I'll be toting a English double! I don't like limeys, but they know how to make sporting arms!
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Is Sabatti an English name? I think not! If we are flying into fantasy island, I'll be toting a English double! I don't like limeys, but they know how to make sporting arms! Now, Ingwe, what did the Limeys ever do to you?
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Most likely,Ingwe forgot.
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Most likely,Ingwe forgot. Poor old bugger. They say the mind is the first thing to go.
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Yeah,it was probably around the mid-to-late 1700's when the Brit's pissed Ingwe off. Can't blame Ingwe for forgetting though,that was a few years back.
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Yeah,it was probably around the mid-to-late 1700's when the Brit's pissed Ingwe off. Can't blame Ingwe for forgetting though,that was a few years back. What's Ingwe's last name? He might ought to be careful!!
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Ingwe Adams. Some people were going to name a beer after him,but went with his brother Samuel Adams instead.
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Ingwe Adams. Some people were going to name a beer after him,but went with his brother Samuel Adams instead. Can't blame 'em. It just doesn't sound right ordering an "ice cold Ingwe."
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That's funny!
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I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!
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Dang, Ingwe, you're French?
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I suggest anyone considering a Sabatti Google it and read on and on and on. I had two for a short time.
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Dang, Ingwe, you're French?
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Dang, Ingwe, you're French? ZING!
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Only if you're talking to The Dude.
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