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Has anyone used Frog Lube CLP? If so, does it work as advertised? or is it just another gimmick?


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No expirence myself but we sell a lot of it at the gunshop where I work part time.

Lot of guys swear by it.

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I've been using it in the paste form, no complaints yet. And nothing toxic or offensive odors with it.


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I love the stuff. I have treated all of the handguns I shoot frequently. Clean up is far easier than without it.

On my rifles I treat the bolts and carbon wipes right off.


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I've found the Frog Lube products to work well.


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I use it on a couple of firearms that are simple to detail strip so that Froglube is exclusively used on every single piece and part. An example is the 1911. I use the paste form, have used it sub-freezing and long term, with stellar results. Don't think anything slicker is known to man.

Only issues I see come from either intermixing with other lubes, or leaving a residual coating. In such cases, it can gum. But, if exclusively used wthout excess, the stuff works amazingly well, and I find it much easier to clean and maintain than other products.

For weapons that I may intermix lubes, I tend to favor TW25B, but Froglube is markedly slicker.


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You need to find the post by DIYguy testing out lubes and corrosion resistance on this site in the Hunters Campfire.

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Thanks for the info. i'll look for posts by DIYguy.


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Originally Posted by yukon375
Thanks for the info. i'll look for posts by DIYguy.


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He does not appear to be banned.


He is the lube test.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/8935318/1



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His posts are still visible but he's gone.

A real piece of work.


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
His posts are still visible but he's gone.

A real piece of work.


You can send a PM to him, which indicate that he is still active.



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I saw his lube/protectant roundup, which seemed quite detailed and informative. What happened that got him chased off?


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I am going to try and recreate some of his top lubes as a couple of them don't jive with what I have found.


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After the glowing reports from a couple of acquaintances, I tried it but,I didn't find it any better than what I used previously.


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Frog Lube is all I use on my XDS. Doubt if id use it on a hunting rifle due to the cold weather reports. Down south would probably be alright. But here in PA I wont take the chance.

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What's the "cold weather reports" about? It does get cold in the Dakotas!

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A bunch of folks had issues in colder weather with FL gumming up. This was awhile back so if memory serves me right it was on the XDS forum I went to. There were some other links to hunting forums with the same issue so I just made the decision to not use it for cold weather weapons.

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If someone freezes up frog lube they are either using too much or using it incorrectly. If you can see it after treating your firearm you haven't done it correctly.

I've had no freezes in sub zero conditions.


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I am a fan of Amsoil MP, but I have some Frog Lube and it is good, too. A buddy swears by it.


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Originally Posted by Rodell
If someone freezes up frog lube they are either using too much or using it incorrectly. If you can see it after treating your firearm you haven't done it correctly.

I've had no freezes in sub zero conditions.


That's what DIYguy says. These lubes should be rubbed on and rubbed off until it seems like you have rubbed it all off. The layer that remains is too thin to cause problems.

His research is/was amazing. Despite my workbench full of products, it put three products on my enthusiastic list and I had never tried any of them: Frog Lube, WD-40 Specialist Long Term Corrosion Inhibitor and Hornady One Shot Gun Cleaner, Conditioner, Dry Lubricant with 4X metal protection.

If he can no longer post here, you might follow his future research at http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/141077-Results-of-gun-care-product-evaluation


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Originally Posted by yukon375
Has anyone used Frog Lube CLP? If so, does it work as advertised? or is it just another gimmick?


FrogLube good.

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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
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Yep, used Frog Lube on the first rifle in summer and loved it so committed and treated the rest of my firearms.

What an absolute cluster F**k, now it's winter in Australia, not real cold here but squeezed off a shot with my .222 then waited a few moments for it to go off, have since stripped it again and it is now better (still not as crisp as it should be). out this afternoon with another rifle and the same thing and have had to have a drilling repaired due it getting into the trigger mechanism.

I will re-clean, re apply and persevere, but this stuff can and dose disable a rife when cold. I have most likely used excess and in some areas, see where it has melted the old hard glazed oil varnish and turned it to gum.

Rust protection has been the only benefit I have seen the rest is a nightmare!





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A word of CAUTION using Froglube on guns with melonite/nitrated finish. It can leave permeant streaks and or splotches in finish.

Apparently some/most newer “Bore Cleaners” have a citric acid in it that splotches and or streaks the melonite/nitrate finish. So its not just limited to Froglube Brand.

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Originally Posted by JamesW
Yep, used Frog Lube on the first rifle in summer and loved it so committed and treated the rest of my firearms.

What an absolute cluster F**k, now it's winter in Australia, not real cold here but squeezed off a shot with my .222 then waited a few moments for it to go off, have since stripped it again and it is now better (still not as crisp as it should be). out this afternoon with another rifle and the same thing and have had to have a drilling repaired due it getting into the trigger mechanism.

I will re-clean, re apply and persevere, but this stuff can and dose disable a rife when cold. I have most likely used excess and in some areas, see where it has melted the old hard glazed oil varnish and turned it to gum.

Rust protection has been the only benefit I have seen the rest is a nightmare!






It acts as a cleaning agent. Your complete mistreatment of the firearm is rearing it's ugly head. Not the Frog lube. Clean the gun, apply it as advertised and carry on. Ive used it on firearms in minus 30 degrees Celsius (I live in Canada) with ZERO problems. Again, clean the crap off your firearm.

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I'm.... ummm... pretty sure FrogLube works when it's cold.




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The instruction sheet that came with my FrogLube CLP states the following "Before applying, clean the weapon to remove petroleum lube (this step is recommended, but may be skipped)." It goes on to say that FrogLube CLP will dissolve petroleum on contact. It does say to wipe off any excess FrogLube before shooting.



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Originally Posted by jwp475


He does not appear to be banned.


He is the lube test.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/8935318/1


MANY thanks for this cite. I had read it when it came out but neglected to archive it,

Perfect or not, it is useful information and I will compare my own experience with his. Good, good data. grin


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Glocks are nitrided and I Have used every compound I can think of cleaning it with no ill effects. Not sure where you heard this.


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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
It acts as a cleaning agent. Your complete mistreatment of the firearm is rearing it's ugly head. Not the Frog lube. Clean the gun, apply it as advertised and carry on. Ive used it on firearms in minus 30 degrees Celsius (I live in Canada) with ZERO problems. Again, clean the crap off your firearm.


Yeah! Actually cleaned with carburetor cleaner then metho then the frog lube cleaner all whilst scrubbing with a tooth brush and bore brushes, the problem has been that the varnish has not been removed and has slowly softened into gum over the last couple of months to form a sticky gum. These rifles are all from the 50's and the newest one is a 1970 model.

Stripped the rifle I had problems with yesterday and one area that has been cleaned 3 times with the above process and still gums up, still has hard varnish under the gum, it chips off with a scriber but I'm having trouble getting the scriber into areas to remove it! leaving frog lube on it for a couple of months for it to slowly dissolve is not an option.

Again I think this stuff is good, but it's ability to disable a rifle if all the stars don't line up, is a serious problem.

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Originally Posted by deflave
I'm.... ummm... pretty sure FrogLube works when it's cold.




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It smells very nice, helps soften callouses and makes for easy cleaning after shooting, with a bit of friction it warms up quickly and is super slippery. That's what the instructions imply !

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Have been using it for a year or so and guns seem to clean up better. I have used it on Glocks and my S&W shield with no issue.

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Originally Posted by JamesW
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It acts as a cleaning agent. Your complete mistreatment of the firearm is rearing it's ugly head. Not the Frog lube. Clean the gun, apply it as advertised and carry on. Ive used it on firearms in minus 30 degrees Celsius (I live in Canada) with ZERO problems. Again, clean the crap off your firearm.


Yeah! Actually cleaned with carburetor cleaner then metho then the frog lube cleaner all whilst scrubbing with a tooth brush and bore brushes, the problem has been that the varnish has not been removed and has slowly softened into gum over the last couple of months to form a sticky gum. These rifles are all from the 50's and the newest one is a 1970 model.

Stripped the rifle I had problems with yesterday and one area that has been cleaned 3 times with the above process and still gums up, still has hard varnish under the gum, it chips off with a scriber but I'm having trouble getting the scriber into areas to remove it! leaving frog lube on it for a couple of months for it to slowly dissolve is not an option.

Again I think this stuff is good, but it's ability to disable a rifle if all the stars don't line up, is a serious problem.


Get a proper solvent and clean your rifle. Then apply the Frog Lube as directed.

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The problem I see with FL is the ability to get it inside of places its not easy to wipe out excess of. This is not as big of issue with conventional lubes that aren't as succeptible to thicken in the cold. If you detail strip and apply FL as directed by wiping away ALL excess it works well but I personally like other lubes better. There are some enclosed parts you simply cannot take apart to remove excess FL so it's not an option. Enclosed rifle triggers come to mind.

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Get a proper solvent and clean your rifle. Then apply the Frog Lube as directed.


So now you are telling me that the Frog Lube cleaner/solvent is rubbish as well!

Wish I knew this before I purchased this stuff for the mega bux it costs here in OZ!

I would like to say this has been a good experience to try and keep some pride and not think that I have been a total moron by being sucked into the advertising hype, but F**k I'm an idiot!!!!!

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The Frog Lube is working as intended. You just have really varnished-up guns that need to be continually cleaned for a few times until you get down to bare metal.

What "solvent" are you using? It doesn't sound like it is really very strong.

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I've read on just about every Frog Lube thread that it's actually just repackaged roller coaster track lube. No proof of this, but now this thread has mentioned it too. wink

I've not been interested enough in Frog Lube to buy any. I've seen it used by several guys at the range and it doesn't appear exceptional in hot, dirty ARs.

I've experimented with a pile of gun lubes over the years but been consistently happy with Weaponshield. Fireclean is the next one I'm trying based on the user feedback.


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I clean my guns with Hoppes Elite and lube them with Frog Lube. The Frog Lube has taken guns that I might see an occasional jam with, to running 100% jam free. AR's that would fire 69 grain bullets without a hitch but might balk on 50 grainers, now run all without a problem. I'm a firm believer in it and will continue to use it. Also, I've not had any issues with nitride weapons, like a Glock 20 and Sig 220's, one with a nitride slide and both with nitride frames. I try not to use it to excess.


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Originally Posted by JamesW
Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Get a proper solvent and clean your rifle. Then apply the Frog Lube as directed.


So now you are telling me that the Frog Lube cleaner/solvent is rubbish as well!

Wish I knew this before I purchased this stuff for the mega bux it costs here in OZ!

I would like to say this has been a good experience to try and keep some pride and not think that I have been a total moron by being sucked into the advertising hype, but F**k I'm an idiot!!!!!


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