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Load for 243 105 AMAX?? #9106052 08/17/14 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 For long range gongs and deer. Out of a factory Remington 22" sporter spout. “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? David_Walter #9106059 08/17/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska You can get there alotta ways...from 15-'22. '414 ain't horrid............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9106141 08/17/14 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,680 The state of Excellence Stickfight Campfire Outfitter Stickfight Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,680 The state of Excellence RL17 is my preference, with Lapua 308 brass necked down and CCI 200 primers.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Stickfight #9106187 08/17/14 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 Try H-1000 Retumbo Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rcamuglia #9106670 08/17/14 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 R rta48 Campfire Regular rta48 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 I have used RL22 with 105's in SAAMI 243 & AI 'd versions. It's hard to beat.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rta48 #9106949 08/17/14 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 Is 7828 SSC a one for one substitute for RL22? “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? David_Walter #9107351 08/18/14 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 707 Foothills of the Sierra Nevada... A adam32 Campfire Regular adam32 Campfire Regular A Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 707 Foothills of the Sierra Nevada... I don't think a factory twisted barrel will stabilize a 105 A-Max.....

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? adam32 #9107425 08/18/14 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN K Kaleb Campfire Outfitter Kaleb Campfire Outfitter K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN They do around here.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? adam32 #9107535 08/18/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Thatr's gonna break some hearts and alotta folks will have to stop shooting them now...after reading that................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Kaleb #9107536 08/18/14 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 My savage and my rem both work at 1 in 9 ish. “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? David_Walter #9107540 08/18/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Woot! There's hope!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? David_Walter #9107542 08/18/14 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana 6 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana This might give you some more info http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? 6MMWASP #9107748 08/18/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,104 cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,104 I would try something with 4831 sc first. lots of people say how great RL 17 is. however its one of the most unstable powders temp wise I have used.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? cumminscowboy #9107880 08/18/14 Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA Reloader 22, H1000 or maybe MagPRO A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? bea175 #9108490 08/18/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country No love for H4350? Me

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Teal #9108877 08/18/14 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,994 Idaho B Burleyboy Campfire Outfitter Burleyboy Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,994 Idaho 46g h1000 works for me. Bb

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Burleyboy #9108959 08/18/14 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,914 B Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,914 46.2grs H1000 works for me and the 105 HPBT When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Bearcat74 #9110744 08/19/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Bearcat, that is the best sig line ever. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9116960 08/21/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,353 Louisiana/Mississippi K kenacp Campfire Regular kenacp Campfire Regular K Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,353 Louisiana/Mississippi IMR4350

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? kenacp #9117057 08/21/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy I can not personally speak of it's performance on deer because I never used them on game. I can tell you they rock at long range and my powder of choice is IMR 7828....work up to 45-46 gr. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9117198 08/22/14 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,914 B Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,914 Originally Posted by HuntnShoot Bearcat, that is the best sig line ever. Thanks, sadly it's true. When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Bearcat74 #9117206 08/22/14 Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD M Magnum_Man Campfire Regular Magnum_Man Campfire Regular M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD David, I wouldn't argue with Fotis on the IMR 7828 recommendation as it's what I usually use with 100 gr Hornady SP's. but last spring when I worked up a load for for the 105 AMAX a max dose of WMR gave me over 3000fps in my 22" 700 BDL with nice groups. goodluck Mag Man

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Magnum_Man #9118421 08/22/14 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 R rta48 Campfire Regular rta48 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 48.0 of RL 22 just yesterday gave me 3244 as a low & 3255 as a high, 12 rounds! 105 gr. Lapua Scenar, we had a little breeze that didn't seem to matter much. This AI'd version is very nice to work with. Randy

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rta48 #9121979 08/23/14 Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA my 105 Hornady's loaf down the barrel and only come out the barrel at 2850 to 2900 depending on rifle and barrel length... but then I am using lowly old IMR 4064..... which is ALWAYS accurate......guess I am too old school...

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Seafire #9126735 08/25/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,482 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,482 Calgary, AB, Canada IMR4350 works for me.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Seafire #9127044 08/25/14 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 R rta48 Campfire Regular rta48 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 Had I wanted to go under 3k I would have staid SAAMI, I got exactly what I was looking for. Mid 32's & accuracy. Best of both worlds. Randy

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rta48 #9127178 08/25/14 Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA Well Hell... if that was the goal... fill the case to the top with H 1000, seat your bullet, give it a crimp and rock and roll...

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Seafire #9128921 08/26/14 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 R rta48 Campfire Regular rta48 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 LOL, so what the hell was your goal? prove to the world you can run a AI'd 243 slower than a SAAMI? Whatever floats your paddleboat!

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rta48 #9130399 08/27/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Her goal was to "flaunt" more Imagination and Pretend,as a Trump Card. You've been "told" by her. Laughing!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9132724 08/27/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy 90 grain Accubond at 3250 fps.... IMR 7828 https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9133277 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Rifle? Glass? Victims?.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9133511 08/28/14 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,389 Remington, SS6x MQ, deer “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? David_Walter #9133527 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska I was quizzing the Lying Clueless Phuqq(Fotis),on her "particulars". If only because it will be funny.................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9133723 08/28/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Originally Posted by Big Stick Rifle? Glass? Victims?.................. Savage predator 243 Nikon 4.5x14 scope https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9133838 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska 2.5 Sandwiches............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9135332 08/28/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Originally Posted by Big Stick You can get there alotta ways...from 15-'22. '414 ain't horrid............... OR Win 760 same stuff.... in case you can not find H414. Hard to come by. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9135356 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska How do you arrange POA/POI intersections,with that POS?............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9135384 08/28/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy If you're addressing me I shoot at different ranges and dial up. That Nikon does have resetable zero turrets. The rifle was extremely accurate even at longer ranges. I only took that one antelope at 220 yards. I opted for the this smaller dinky buck so my son can kill this one. He used a sendero 264 mag with a 4.5x14 Leupy with M1 turrets at 277 yards. 140 VLD's at 3100 fps with RL 25. I myself are 80% disabled veteran (USAF) so movement is a huge issue and limited. Anyway I do what I can https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9135400 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Stupidity is your greatest disability. Yep...them Nikons is LEGENDARY. Laughing!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9135442 08/28/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Ok. So Unless it is done by you it can not be done?? I wonder what happened to you that made you be so vitriolic..... Anyway I could care less how you feel. I hunt I kill and I eat. Never an issue. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9135453 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Again...Stupidity is your greatest disability. I didn't make the Nikon glass a piece of schit,Nikon did. Them are facts. That's about the 100,000,001 time you cited how you "don't care"...and you wonder why you are a Lying Clueless Phuqq. Laughing!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9135461 08/28/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy What a human you are! https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9135470 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska PLEASE find me "mistaken"...it will be funny. You keep "forgetting" your lie about Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Laughing! Funnier than schit,what is "real" to you!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9135505 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18,453 Bernardsville, NJ RDFinn Campfire Ranger RDFinn Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18,453 Bernardsville, NJ Originally Posted by Fotis Originally Posted by Big Stick You can get there alotta ways...from 15-'22. '414 ain't horrid............... OR Win 760 same stuff.... in case you can not find H414. Hard to come by. Not hard to find if you go to Powder Valley. 1 lb and 8 lb in stock

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? RDFinn #9135511 08/28/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Shhhhhhhhhhhhhsh...she's doing "great". Again..................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? RDFinn #9136283 08/29/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Originally Posted by RDFinn Originally Posted by Fotis Originally Posted by Big Stick You can get there alotta ways...from 15-'22. '414 ain't horrid............... OR Win 760 same stuff.... in case you can not find H414. Hard to come by. Not hard to find if you go to Powder Valley. 1 lb and 8 lb in stock My point being if you can find W760 locally why pay 40+ dollars after hazmat and shipping just to try it. Now if you tried it before and it does work then yes order the 8 pounder. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9136347 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska No need to flaunt your Stupidity Disability,it's loooooooonnnng been readily apparent. Just saying............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9136532 08/29/14 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Originally Posted by Big Stick No need to flaunt your Stupidity Disability,it's loooooooonnnng been readily apparent. Just saying............... Fuggin' with a disabled VETERAN... based on scope choice. Uber Classy.... You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Dogshooter #9136539 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska I simply stated facts,in that she is a Clueless Lying Phuqq and that Stupidity is her greatest disability..................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9136751 08/29/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,353 Louisiana/Mississippi K kenacp Campfire Regular kenacp Campfire Regular K Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,353 Louisiana/Mississippi Let's get back to the 105 A-max. Would like to hear more.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? kenacp #9136769 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late H heavywalker Campfire Outfitter heavywalker Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late You know buying a couple boxes and shooting them will do far more for you than anything you hear on a forum.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? kenacp #9136800 08/29/14 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 Originally Posted by kenacp Let's get back to the 105 A-max. Would like to hear more. Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? kenacp #9136832 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska The fly well/kill well. Hardly a "secret"............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9137290 08/29/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy RC have you used them in deer? How did they do? https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9137388 08/29/14 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 No, but others have had great success Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rcamuglia #9137434 08/29/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,482 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,482 Calgary, AB, Canada A couple examples of meat deer heart-shot with the 105AM...

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Jordan Smith #9137465 08/29/14 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Holy crap! Soup inside. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Fotis #9137482 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Speer btsp does that same thing. Like a drunk carrying a bucket of blood. Soft bullets kill well. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9137496 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Speer's are Ping Pong Balls. Not all bullets are the same,nor even close and that in flight characteristics and terminal affects. Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9137517 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Yep. Nobody has ever been able to kill anything ever. Not unless they were shooting Amax, on rifles with SWFA scopes. Sorry everyone. Only Stick ever killed anything. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9137523 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Your Whine is excellent! Cheer up...I shoot more bullets than even YOUR Imagination could ever Pretend. I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess. Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9137561 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT I don't have to guess either. You take the guesswork right out of it, even when I try to give you the benefit of the doubt. There is a HUGE difference between knowing what you know, and knowing what there is to know. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9137572 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Find me "mistaken". It WILL be FUNNY. Hint................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9138053 08/29/14 Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,735 Southern Oregon USA Originally Posted by HuntnShoot Yep. Nobody has ever been able to kill anything ever. Not unless they were shooting Amax, on rifles with SWFA scopes. Sorry everyone. Only Stick ever killed anything. Careful there.. Schtick has been responsible for half the game taken in the state of Alaska over the last 10 years.... the other half of the game taken, were taken by hunters he was supervising... He was also responsible for half of the fish caught within Alaskan Waters over the last 20 years...the other half caught once again by people under his supervision . What is even more mind boggling is that he managed to accomplish all of this, by being the official Alaskan State Wildlife Photographer, and spending all of this time on the campfire telling us all what idiots we are, sitting on our couches all the time.. and just pretending.. wishing we were him, and admiring his manly bald head..... Hell yeah, Schtick is quite a guy... he'd be governor of Alaska if he could spare the time..... how did any of us ever live without his influence in our lives before we knew of his existence... we all stand in Awe.. and he does all of this being 3 foot 18 inches tall... AMAZING, AIN'T IT!

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9138071 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Originally Posted by Big Stick Find me "mistaken". It WILL be FUNNY. Hint................... The sad part: you are mistaken often. You just think you are right. Anytime you poohpooh on someone's equipment choice, you are mistaken. You are mistaken in thinking anyone wants to be insulted on the internet by a guy with a complex. Like I said, you know what you know. You seem not to know what else there is to know. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Seafire #9138106 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Shefire, Your amazingly loooooooooooooong list of insecurities,are exceptionally well founded. As per always,your best move is to take notes and apply same. Hint................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9138110 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Funnier than I thought. Ain't it a fascinating constant,that someone as STUPID as you...knows better than to even try. Your "best" is a hoot!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Seafire #9138232 08/29/14 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 Originally Posted by Seafire Originally Posted by HuntnShoot Yep. Nobody has ever been able to kill anything ever. Not unless they were shooting Amax, on rifles with SWFA scopes. Sorry everyone. Only Stick ever killed anything. Careful there.. Schtick has been responsible for half the game taken in the state of Alaska over the last 10 years.... the other half of the game taken, were taken by hunters he was supervising... He was also responsible for half of the fish caught within Alaskan Waters over the last 20 years...the other half caught once again by people under his supervision . What is even more mind boggling is that he managed to accomplish all of this, by being the official Alaskan State Wildlife Photographer, and spending all of this time on the campfire telling us all what idiots we are, sitting on our couches all the time.. and just pretending.. wishing we were him, and admiring his manly bald head..... Hell yeah, Schtick is quite a guy... he'd be governor of Alaska if he could spare the time..... how did any of us ever live without his influence in our lives before we knew of his existence... we all stand in Awe.. and he does all of this being 3 foot 18 inches tall... AMAZING, AIN'T IT! The God's truth from what I've seen and read. At least the height. I'm in awe. Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9138263 08/29/14 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT Originally Posted by Big Stick Funnier than I thought. Ain't it a fascinating constant,that someone as STUPID as you...knows better than to even try. Your "best" is a hoot!................. Once a cock sucker, always a cock sucker, eh? Well, I guess that makes 2 things you can brag about. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HuntnShoot #9138351 08/29/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Fascinating how you Whining Clueless Phuqqs,always get horned up and go to cramming things in your mouth and ass. Congratulations?..................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9139870 08/30/14 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Screw the AMax. I'm running the Hybrid this year.... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Kimber7man #9140320 08/30/14 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,816 I have a friend that has shot animals with the Berger hybrid. Good luck! Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Kimber7man #9140769 08/30/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska The 105 Hornie HPBT and Skinner,rate thunks............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9142369 08/31/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Originally Posted by Big Stick The 105 Hornie HPBT and Skinner,rate thunks............... Seen you mention the HPBT several times and I know it ain't an accident. Why over the A-MAX? Me

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Teal #9142585 08/31/14 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,952 H HawkI Campfire Ranger HawkI Campfire Ranger H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,952 Don't know about Stick but availability would be one reason, they also clone an A-Max well since they are basically twins. One just has a tidt....

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HawkI #9142596 08/31/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Hornady is back to making them again - been seeing them on the shelves here quite a bit - the A-Max I have enough on hand for my son's rifle, I'm thinking of getting a .243 for myself. Me

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Teal #9142621 08/31/14 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,952 H HawkI Campfire Ranger HawkI Campfire Ranger H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,952 Bout time. The lapse in the .224 75 has made about every slick/puff bullet in that range go on bi-annual backorder. I like the A-Max for the puff factor on thin fur and feathered critters. Never shot the 75 HPBT at such, but I'd imagine they don't initiate as much goo as the A-Max.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Teal #9142639 08/31/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska They are slicker,for one............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? HawkI #9142644 08/31/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska 2 Dall Sheep went in The Book over 400yds each,this last week,with 75A-Max. Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9142952 08/31/14 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood Originally Posted by Big Stick 2 Dall Sheep went in The Book over 400yds each,this last week,with 75A-Max. Hint............... Did you shoot the book dall rams or is that your imagination? Please post pic's of your rams. Maybe you should quit posting and get off the couch?.... laffin Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? irfubar #9143017 08/31/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Pards did. Half of the Dynamic Duo are up...the other not quite yet. Few could out couch you. Congratulations?.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Big Stick #9143731 09/01/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,953 Flyover Country Saw pics of one ram some "other" place. I'm not a sheep hunter but damn - BIG is BIG and you don't have to be an expert to know when you see it. HELL of a ram. Me

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Teal #9144001 09/01/14 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 R rta48 Campfire Regular rta48 Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 878 I've seen pics of the rams in another location and yep they were both very nice. Never did see a couch in any of those pics!

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? rta48 #9144066 09/01/14 Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,353 State of Jefferson Rogue Campfire Tracker Rogue Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,353 State of Jefferson A beast like that doesn't get old by living next to a road. Outstanding animal.

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? Rogue #9144560 09/01/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,349 Paradise,Alaska Pretty good little A-Max Year.................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Load for 243 105 AMAX?? kenacp #9158324 09/06/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,712 MN/ND R rflshtr Campfire Regular rflshtr Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,712 MN/ND Retumbo is worth trying with the 105's.