Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles For even money - which 300 wby - mark v or vanguard

Agreed, depends on the Mark V, age, location of build, condition, condition, condition...

With hunting season approaching, there's bound to be an elk hunter in search of a caliber problem surfing the web for the
"ideal" uber shooter.

Pretty the factory accuracy garentee is the same for both rifles.

I like the Mark V, but either one would do. Mark Vs "usually" hold better value over time.

don't be dissin them kicks now, I'd pimp those anywhere.

not that it's relative to anything, but I've got a Steyr PH with the short(er) 70 deg "SBS" bolt throw. using a 2-7x leupold (bout the smallest ocular in existence), I have to use medium warnes to get the bolt to clear the ocular, due the shape of the handle. so yeah, as far as I can tell the degree of bolt throw means next to jack squat in terms of whether it will clear your scope.

I've had a Vanguard S2 that is now owned by a good friend. Great rifle, well built, and accurate. I've never owned a MkV to compare it to. That being said, I've rarely seen a MkV that could be bought for within $2-300 of the same thing in a Vanguard. For value at the same price point, I'd go MkV every day.

You need to just shut up and take notes. I've learned a ton on this thread:

-90 degree bolt lift is a huge problem requiring re-engineering of the "standard" bolt action. Mauser was a putz, in other words. And everyone who copied him.

-Winchester never made a push feed action

-Ruger American is a custom rifle maker

-No custom rifle makers use their own actions.


I'm going to get lunch, but I expect there'll be even more heretofore unbeknownst facts here when I get back.

So what. 10,000 people watch "Honey Boo Boo" on TV for every one that reads an actual newspaper.

But if you want to play that game, let's give it a whirl. We'll start with just Ruger, since you mentioned Ruger American Rifles. How many 2-lug bolts do you reckon Ruger has sold, vs. 3-luggers?

Now let's look at all major gun manufacturers combined, same question, how many 2-luggers vs. 3-luggers?

Kenny Jarrett Actions are 3 lug

Rah-Jah, I know an old man that would buy a clean MK-V from me in a heartbeat.

Got those in a 13EEE?

Just my own opinion, but I have had a Rem. 700 BDL in .300 WM for 27 years, and I love it. I also have a Vanguard in .243 Win, which also is a really fine-shooting rifle and functions great. But I bought my first MkV in 2009. I have bought two more bolt actions since then, and they also were both Mk Vs. They're just better to me. To me--it's all in what you like. I have a 7mm Ultra Lightweight that weighs 6-3/4 lbs (not counting scoping) and a .375 Wby DGR that weighs a lot more. I also have a .340 Wby Accumark that is the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. I just shot it yesterday, and it always amazes me. The 9-lug design is more difficult to manufacture well and expensive. But it requires a lot less movement to cycle and is so smooth when doing so. Not necessary to be sure, but I like it a lot better than any other bolt I have shot. Just my own preference.

You rang, sir?

shhhhhh.....

SH,

like Ingwe-san,




many times I hunt in Crocs



so should I hunt with 2 lugs, 3 lugs, 9 lugs, or by myself???

Best,

GWB

Pay attention and read thru the thread that is not what I said [bleep] There is a reason you are a school bus driver , wondering who you paid off in the school district to get even that job

Go Gaytors

wow amazing . Please list the scopes, rifles and ring base heights and lengths to authenticate this amazing statement.

WOw you really are a dense one.

How long has the RugerAmerican rifle been out compared to their 77 which has been out since the late sixties.

If it is made in greater or lesser quantities it does not diminish the fact that a multi lug(more then 2) makes a more accurate rifle, makes mounting scopes that have big oculars and objectives easier and If there is a drawback it is the increased effort on the bolt lift.

Now someone get a connect the dots coloring book for the Bus Driving Steelhead so he can figure this out....ah forget that it won't help.

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In answer to the OP's original question, I wouldn't buy either rifle. I think you need to have a pretty good reason to sign up for .300 Weatherby mag recoil. It's just not a good move for most people.

Pure, unadulterated BS.

Or maybe you'd care to substantiate that, since you seem to be big on substantiation?

I said 'old man,' not "Stately Gentleman"

Thought you were done you dumbass.

Rifles were listed. Ruger rings were stock, others were DD, don't remember heights - just know I'm not dumb enough to put one on that didn't work. If the [bleep] thing hit - change it.

Cripes you need some meds or maybe a 5th grade education. I've seen some real dumb asses on the fire in the 11 years I've been here but you're gunning for top prize.

You rang, sir? [/quote]

I said 'old man,' not "Stately Gentleman" [/quote]

well, appreciate the overstatement, but I'll still take it, espcially in a 7 Wby mag!