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Exactly. Kahles has a great #4, also.... But ordering off the shelf from leupold, that HD seems to be the thickest/quickest low light ch arrangement they offer.
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Exactly. Kahles has a great #4, also.... But ordering off the shelf from leupold, that HD seems to be the thickest/quickest low light ch arrangement they offer. Aren't Kahles all 30mm?
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Think so, but I was just referring to their reticle, as an example of the #4s I'm drawn to. I have some 30mm stuff I like to look through, but not look AT, at least on my trimmer rigs.
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For dim-light shooting I prefer the Heavy Duplex in Leupolds, for the reasons others already stated. However, I also find it works just great for longer distances as well.
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For dim-light shooting I prefer the Heavy Duplex in Leupolds, for the reasons others already stated. However, I also find it works just great for longer distances as well. Thanks John, I thought I remembered you saying that. Looks like that's what's going on my Boddington No 1a. I'll let Ingwe guess the caliber.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Think so, but I was just referring to their reticle, as an example of the #4s I'm drawn to. I have some 30mm stuff I like to look through, but not look AT, at least on my trimmer rigs. Ah, got it. Yes, it looks a lot like Leupold's P&D. Only the Kahles I was looking at is illuminated. I wish they could do that in a 1 inch tube. I'll bet the technology eventually gets there.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I don't think it's available anymore, but premier reticles made a 4a that was essentially the heavy duplex on the side and bottom bars and conventional plex on the center and top. Back when they were working with Leupold I had them fit one to a 2.5x compact.
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I don't think it's available anymore, but premier reticles made a 4a that was essentially the heavy duplex on the side and bottom bars and conventional plex on the center and top. Back when they were working with Leupold I had them fit one to a 2.5x compact. That would be the ticket, wouldn't it.
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For dim-light shooting I prefer the Heavy Duplex in Leupolds, for the reasons others already stated. However, I also find it works just great for longer distances as well. This. All my Leupolds (unless illuminated), carry the HD X hairs and they all hang with the expensive Euro stuff (which BTW, the X hairs on Z6s are WAY too thin).
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We seem to be moving towards a consensus here!!
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Exactly. Kahles has a great #4, also.... But ordering off the shelf from leupold, that HD seems to be the thickest/quickest low light ch arrangement they offer. Aren't Kahles all 30mm? Not their older Helia CL scopes which were 1" and can still be found around $500-$700 and are great bargains IMHO. I have two with #4 reticle. One is a 2-7X36 and one is a 3-10X50.
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This is my Leupold 1.5-5 with lit German #4 on my Kimber 7-08, I really like the combo as my walking about/sitting with kids gun. only thing I may change is Talley LW rings.
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I'm getting to like the #4 on this Meopta 6X. Bob
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Heavy Duplex. It allows quick ranging as well. Tried the Premier Reticles 4a, the #1, and the Post & Duplex. E
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Heavy Duplex. It allows quick ranging as well. Tried the Premier Reticles 4a, the #1, and the Post & Duplex. E Tried them, but what did you think?
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Of all of them, the only one I would use other than the HD, would be the #1 but only on a close cover rifle. When I say "tried them," I mean I hunted them for a while. For my hunting, the HD offers as much performance as I need plus the added benefit quick ranging. E
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Of all of them, the only one I would use other than the HD, would be the #1 but only on a close cover rifle. When I say "tried them," I mean I hunted them for a while. For my hunting, the HD offers as much performance as I need plus the added benefit quick ranging. E Got it. Thanks. I'll have an HD Leupold here Monday.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Seems I've Hunted With a Few Of Them All. And Most Of My Shooting Is At Dusk Or Dawn.Its Usally Dark When I Go In, And Dark When I Come Out.. For Me I've Never Found Anything That Will Beat a 4A. I Prefer a Swarovski AV 3-10-42.I.M.O Best Whitetail Scope Built.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My preference is #4 over a heavy duplex.
I recently bought a Trijicon duplex with green dot. I havn't hunted with it yet but the glass is nice and the dot would be good for hog hunting at night.
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