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Well said by BobinNH


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Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by bellydeep
I think that about covers it?

Not at all. Your assumptions fail you.

Prior to that I'd killed a BUNCH of deer with the .257 plus a 3-4 things a little more than double the size of an elk.



But not an elk, correct?



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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Originally Posted by T_O_M
You don't get it, do you?

I had a little skinny lane to shoot down. 12 feet approximately. No visibility on either side. If that elk had crossed those 12 feet we'd have been fooked. It's bad steep and real brushy for 3 miles after that.

The point of .257 vs .300 had nothing to do with shoot it behind the shoulder, it was about shooting it THROUGH both shoulders .. right through the big damn ball joints and turning it feet to the sky without it getting even a foot beyond that 12 foot lane.

I'm done. I've said my piece ... this field is yours. Enjoy.


Lung shot would have done him in after a few yards. Sharpen your tracking skills a bit.


Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Originally Posted by T_O_M
You don't get it, do you?

I had a little skinny lane to shoot down. 12 feet approximately. No visibility on either side. If that elk had crossed those 12 feet we'd have been fooked. It's bad steep and real brushy for 3 miles after that.

The point of .257 vs .300 had nothing to do with shoot it behind the shoulder, it was about shooting it THROUGH both shoulders .. right through the big damn ball joints and turning it feet to the sky without it getting even a foot beyond that 12 foot lane.

I'm done. I've said my piece ... this field is yours. Enjoy.


I'll bet at 12 feet a TSX or a TTSX would of blown through that bull with ease. And with "ten fold" less recoil a second shot blowing another hole right through the already dead bull would be easy. But if you want to try and settle in for another shot out with your .300 go for it. smile


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Originally Posted by Shag
Originally Posted by T_O_M
You don't get it, do you?

I had a little skinny lane to shoot down. 12 feet approximately. No visibility on either side. If that elk had crossed those 12 feet we'd have been fooked. It's bad steep and real brushy for 3 miles after that.

The point of .257 vs .300 had nothing to do with shoot it behind the shoulder, it was about shooting it THROUGH both shoulders .. right through the big damn ball joints and turning it feet to the sky without it getting even a foot beyond that 12 foot lane.

I'm done. I've said my piece ... this field is yours. Enjoy.


I'll bet at 12 feet a TSX or a TTSX would of blown through that bull with ease. And with "ten fold" less recoil a second shot blowing another hole right through the already dead bull would be easy. But if you want to try and settle in for another shot out with your .300 go for it. smile


The shooting distance wasn't 12 feet, that was the width of the shooting lane. Reading comprehension IS important.

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BobinNH - I believe what you are advocating. This thread wasn't a plea for advice on a great, better, or perfect gun for elk.

The OP asked for advice specific to what he's got available to him. He wants to go hunt with his Dad with a gun that can and has worked. So how many have offered useful input?

By the way, my favorite "elk" rifle is a .338WM. I used my Roberts for everything from Rockchucks and bigger until I bought my .338WM and it has been used a lot since then. Not arguing effectiveness of bigger bullets. What he has will work.


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I am not opposed to carrying small calibers or moderately powered cartridges for elk. I know 243s and 257s have been flawless elk guns in the hands of some hunters, and of course when carried by women and children. I know my dad was a big 6mm guy, but for my kind of elk hunting, I wouldn't have the stones to use one. It has been a rarity that shots have been under 300yds in the open country I hunt, and often the shots are a lot farther. I had to learn to make those shots or go home empty-handed. I wouldn't attempt them with a 257.

I've been trying to find more spots to hunt the timber, where shots are close, and in that case, a handgun, levergun, or smaller cal rifle should work perfectly.


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Originally Posted by BigNate
BobinNH - I believe what you are advocating. This thread wasn't a plea for advice on a great, better, or perfect gun for elk.

The OP asked for advice specific to what he's got available to him. He wants to go hunt with his Dad with a gun that can and has worked. So how many have offered useful input?

By the way, my favorite "elk" rifle is a .338WM. I used my Roberts for everything from Rockchucks and bigger until I bought my .338WM and it has been used a lot since then. Not arguing effectiveness of bigger bullets. What he has will work.


Big Nate: I did not read the entire thread....my bad! But who has the time?! I was commenting on the comments,so missed the gist.

But I will go back and read the whole thread. Thanks!




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Originally Posted by simplyme
Well lets hear it. What are you suggestions as to what bullet I should use. I am thinking the Barnes 100gr TTSX or Noslers 110gr Accubond. Maybe a Nosler Partition 115gr. Yes I know their is a better choice for cartridge but this is what I have for now and it is hat will have to work.

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I have seen the 115 NPT used on elk and black bear; have used it myself on mule deer, and antelope,so that's what I would use.




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Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
Originally Posted by Shag
Originally Posted by T_O_M
You don't get it, do you?

I had a little skinny lane to shoot down. 12 feet approximately. No visibility on either side. If that elk had crossed those 12 feet we'd have been fooked. It's bad steep and real brushy for 3 miles after that.

The point of .257 vs .300 had nothing to do with shoot it behind the shoulder, it was about shooting it THROUGH both shoulders .. right through the big damn ball joints and turning it feet to the sky without it getting even a foot beyond that 12 foot lane.

I'm done. I've said my piece ... this field is yours. Enjoy.


I'll bet at 12 feet[s][/s] a TSX or a TTSX would of blown through that bull with ease. And with "ten fold" less recoil a second shot blowing another hole right through the already dead bull would be easy. But if you want to try and settle in for another shot out with your .300 go for it. smile


The shooting distance wasn't 12 feet, that was the width of the shooting lane. Reading comprehension IS important.

Jim


There I fixed it for ya. BTW, bullet comprehension is important. smile


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Originally Posted by simplyme
Well lets hear it. What are you suggestions as to what bullet I should use. I am thinking the Barnes 100gr TTSX or Noslers 110gr Accubond. Maybe a Nosler Partition 115gr. Yes I know their is a better choice for cartridge but this is what I have for now and it is hat will have to work.

Thank You


For elk I would stick with 110 Accubonds or 120 gr Partitions. The .257 Roberts is plenty for elk as long as you know its (as well as your own)limitations.

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Nosler 257 115 gr PT
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That is pphucking beautiful and what we shot in our 25-06... Id trust that bullet anytime anywhere. BTW, John B(mule deer) says him and his wife have filled Arks with that bullet...


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257 Roberts 115 gr PT at 3000 fps. Bullet went through 5 water jugs and was found in the dirt.
Bullet weighs 79.5 grs and expanded to .595".

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That's the beauty of a Partition. It's most likely gonna look the same every time, out of anything you find it in.


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