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Originally Posted by Sycamore
I wonder if it was the HK416 that came out ahead?

and what was the ammo change? powder? weight of bullet?

Sycamore


Pffffttt...

The 416's I've used were nowhere near a Colt M4 in terms of utility.



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by sherp
I've seen vids of AKs doing that, too.


Yep. An AK isn't as inaccurate as many claim and an M16 isn't as unreliable as many claim.


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
I thought this article was nearly a year old?


Date line is from 4 days ago.

But the military's had several of the pho-competitions over the last decade.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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What they have now is a POS for certain!!


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The Army has always had more than its fair share of institutional stupid and it's only gotten worse in the last 20 years.

Instead of cultivating warriors and leadership, the officer corps cultivates aZZ-kissing yes-men politicians. When a real warrior and leader actually sneaks through they do everything to marginalize and get rid of them.


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I wouldn't take an FAN-FAL over an M-14. WHATEVER rifles that were in the test,They ALL tend to look good in such tests. Do any of you have ANY idea how much abuse a rifle undegoes when it is actually used in the field for real?? I ain't talkin' a spec op party as they are pretty short term. Take a rifle in the field and LIVE with it in your hands for 6 months then get back to me about how tough and reliable it is. The only rifles I saw that passed that test were the M1 Garand,the M-14,the AK-47 and the M1 carbine. Unfortunately the M1 carbine is miserably underpowered. M-16's we used had to be cleaned every day SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!!!! Treat test guns like a chunk of schhhit for a couple of months and get back to e.


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