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My lingering criticism (of a gun I've never shot  ) is why didn't they just chamber it for 9x19? Because this way they can sell .380s to all the guys who really wanted 9mms. Then in a year or so they can release a 9mm and sell them to all the guys who bought .380s. They're selling twice as many guns this way.
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A slight aside.......just bought a new Ruger LC9s Saturday. It's a single stack, 7+1magazine, striker fired 9mm that fits in a front jeans pocket just fine. It has a 3.125" barrel and Novak three-dot sights, and a frame mounted safety that is easy to use. I've only shot one box of FMJ's (50 rnds) thru, but no malfunctions. Might be worth a look. $339.00 plus tax out the door. Weight empty is 17 ozs. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x439/rugershooter1/3DEDF058-9003-45AA-AA0A-FD0F0DF4D23A.jpg)
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I bought a 42 last weekend for $379+tax. Ran 50 rounds thru it and so far I'm quite pleased with it. I had been looking for a 'pocket' pistol and it was between this and a Smith 442 airweight. The best I could do on the Smith was $450. Soo, my cheap side won out this time. I've never owned a 380 and I almost feel dirty lol. ![[Linked Image]](http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp347/pickle37849/20140816_174556_zpsairjqmen.jpg)
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That little bastid ain't gotta light rail. WTF are they thinking?
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My lingering criticism (of a gun I've never shot ) is why didn't they just chamber it for 9x19? Because this way they can sell .380s to all the guys who really wanted 9mms. Then in a year or so they can release a 9mm and sell them to all the guys who bought .380s. They're selling twice as many guns this way. yeah I do think that is what they did. it looks to me like they could easily put the 9mm in the same gun. I looked at that lc9 striker fired gun the other day. couple things I assume the metal finish is the same as they put on the LCP if it is, it sure as hell aint anywhere near close to what glock puts on their guns. it rubs off quite quickly. I would want a bi tone model if they offer it. The other is I didn't think the trigger was all that great still. The one I looked at I am left wondering why is it after all this time most companies still can't offer a trigger that is as good as glocks. give me a takeup and I don't care if its a tad heavy but a clean break really helps, glocks aren't perfect but they are better than all but the walther PPQ
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A P3AT is no Glock......and I own a P3AT
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The only .380 I ever owned was a little Belgian made Browning. Don't remember the model number or specifics, but I liked it, wish I had it back (traded it in on a Contender when they first came out). I carried the little Browning in a front pocket many times, but I'm not putting a Glock in a pocket unless the magazine has been removed!
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one other issue with pocket 380's is the ones I have seen are freaking unreliable to make matters even worse. none of them I have played with or owned can you simply pull the slide back and it digest a round like there is nothing to it. check out hickok's video on the body guard both those guns jammed constantly. another common problem is the slides lock back when they are not supposed to. for that reason I would get a model that does not have a slide lock back. my 380's are down the road though and I don't see myself owning another. I am sick of the issues that come with them.
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I guess I must be a lucky SOB. My P3AT has never bobbled and as far as accuracy, it's a helluva lot better than the Beretta Tomcat POS I had for several years. Accurate enough to regularly ring the 10" steel plates at my backyard range at 7 yards or so.
On the subject of single stack guns - ironically, I'm thinking of dumping my Stainless Kahr K40 in favor of the just slightly larger Springfield XDM 3.8 compact.
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Some friends and I played with a 42 a few weeks back, fired a LOT of different ammo through it; everything but Tula worked flawlessly. I'm not a fan, but that one worked great.
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I just read the G&A article touting (of course) the new GLock model 42 in 380. When they got around to listing this new firearms wieght, length, width, hieght etc. the first thing I did was to retreive my Compact 380 and 9mm's and quickly learned that this supposed 'mouse gun' is larger than other 380's like my P3AT and is large enough to be out of the running as a pocket gun. In fact, it is as large as many 9mm's on the market including my wifes PF-9.
So, my thinking is this: If I am going to carry a gun the same size as many 9mm pistols, it is going to BE a 9mm or a 40 S&W.
I am certainly not going to buy a 380 that is so big it requires a belt holster. If I have to carry a pistol in a holster with a cover garment, it is going to be at LEAST a 9mm, and probably a darned sight bigger than even that.
So, I am going to predict this one fails to get much penetration ion the market. What do you think? I think you missed that guess by a mile, maybe two.
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Maybe, maybe not. Around here, they are sitting on shelves. There was an initial rush, but after they were out a week or so, they simply aren't moving.
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I had one for a few months. I thought maybe Wifey would like it.
She shot about 3 rounds and said no thanks.
Now it functioned perfectly with every ammo I tried, both hollow points and flat points.
The size doesn't make sense, it is almost the same as my Sig 938.
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They aren't lasting on shelves around here. Gun sales have slowed down quite a bit in these parts, though. I guess folks are spending their money on vacations or family trips. Christmas is just around the corner though, and even more importantly, the tax rebate season is right behind Christmas. That is when guns really fly off the shelves around here.
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Maybe, maybe not. Around here, they are sitting on shelves. There was an initial rush, but after they were out a week or so, they simply aren't moving. Not selling here or at gun shows, either. Too many real 9mm's out there that are easier to stash. I think we will see a day when all 38o's and nearly all 9mm's will be pocket pistols. Mid sized and full sized guns being all 40's, 10's Super 38's, 45's etc. I totally have the hots for a Sig Sauer 900 series mini 1911 style 9mm. Someday....
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I dont see that day at all. Full size 9s are more popular now than ever. We issue 40s, but the guys (myself included) are swarming to full size 9mms, on their own dime.
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We can't keep them in stock where I work.
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As long as a full size 9mm holds more rounds, recoils less and costs less to shoot than a .40, 10mm, .45 or whatever else.....full size 9mms will still be popular.
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The 10mm and 38 Super will never be more than niche rounds.
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Personally, i don't see the need for a mini auto. In any caliber.
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