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30 cal Amax #9137172 08/29/14
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot OP Campfire Outfitter
OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	Anyone know the low velocity threshold for opening a 155 or 168 Amax on deer-sized game? I'm shooting these out of a 1:12 handgun, so mv is low, and I'm looking wondering whether 1600 is too slow to open on deer or bigger. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

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Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9137391 08/29/14
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OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	C'mon, chicken.... I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9137584 08/29/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	The 168 below 1600fps,does Venison no favors. Have never recovered one.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9137996 08/29/14
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 260 L logdog Campfire Member
logdog Campfire Member L Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 260	The Amax is probably perfect for your hand gun. They kill at extreme ranges where the velocity is low.

Re: 30 cal Amax logdog #9138089 08/29/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	I hear good things.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: 30 cal Amax logdog #9138098 08/29/14
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OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	I haven't put any through the gun yet, but this is what I was hoping to hear. There's a local shop that just got a bunch of 168s in. I've seen that soft bullets at slow speed act like hard bullets at fast speed, i.e. they open in a controlled manner, fragment much less, and make a long wound channel. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9138100 08/29/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	I'm really "surprised" you've never shot said bullet. Laughing!............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9138545 08/30/14
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT H HuntnShoot OP Campfire Outfitter
OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	I haven't shot said gun. I wait until I have them before I shoot them. Maybe it works different in AK. As far as 30 cals go, I'm not all horned up for the 308, so much of my jacketed bullet testing and hunting has been with 180+. Why shoot a BC .47 when I can shoot a BC .57? I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9138577 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	The only thing you shoot is your mouth and Imagination,though in no particular order. Feel free to Pretend about "all" your 30cal bullet "testing",in any chambering you are comfortable to Imagine. It will be funny! Yep...them 168's are "rare". Laughing............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9138603 08/30/14
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OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	Keep it down. I can hear you slurping from here. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

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Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9138622 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	It IS a hilarious constant,that them who do the least...get horned up the first. I reckon it plum awkward for you to Pretend about bullets. Laughing!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9138985 08/30/14
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,716 Texas J jeffbird Campfire Regular
jeffbird Campfire Regular J Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,716 Texas	They work fine. Shot placement trumps power. From some culling during the drought.

Re: 30 cal Amax jeffbird #9138988 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	I hear good things.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax jeffbird #9139016 08/30/14
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,943 Colorado	Originally Posted by jeffbird They work fine. Shot placement trumps power. From some culling during the drought. Nice neck shot. Of course with the bullet placement, so long as it's accurate, bullet choice would make little difference. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9139039 08/30/14
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,716 Texas J jeffbird Campfire Regular
jeffbird Campfire Regular J Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,716 Texas	Originally Posted by Big Stick I hear good things.............. Yep. Shot placement with a handgun will be the issue to worry about in this situation, not the bullet. AS, Thank you, yes, base of the neck at the junction of the cervical and thoracic spine. Shot placement is the intersection of accuracy with knowledge of anatomy. Lots of combos work well with it, and few work well without it.

Re: 30 cal Amax jeffbird #9139067 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	Never owned a 308 pistole,but shot 'em. We all toted XP-100's in 7-08. Weren't even fair...which is about how I like to roll...............(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9139477 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,474 Alaska R rost495 Campfire Kahuna
rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,474 Alaska	208 amax 30 cal will not open at 1100 fps. But I've seen a few of them get bent sideways and crack the jacket a bit in the backstops. We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: 30 cal Amax rost495 #9139497 08/30/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	Never heard of them Laughing!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30 cal Amax Big Stick #9140844 08/30/14
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OP HuntnShoot Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 9,189 15 min from elk, MT	Good shooting, Jeff. I've been researching that shot this year, and planning to give it a try during the hunt. I've always been a heart/lungs/ribs shooter, and I prefer to shoot soft bullets. Roughly how big would you call the kill zone right there where the cervical meet the thoracic vertebrae? I don't like to waste any meat if I can help it, so I avoid shoulders. I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.

Re: 30 cal Amax HuntnShoot #9140934 08/31/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	Wow. It is hilarious you ask someone else how big a Deer's head is,so you can Pretend with bullets you've never shot,to salve your Imagination. THAT is phuqqing funny!.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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