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If I had a daughter,I'd get her a Montucky or two...............


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Though I'd draw the line at letting a girl,shoot a Bear................


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If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90?

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
If I had a daughter,I'd get her a Montucky or two...............


They were on my list, we just didn't see any today. The Classic was as close as I could come. A .223/.308 set with a pair of gold rings would cover alot of ground.


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For the situation originally mentioned, I would run a Ruger 77/22 Magnum, in the original stainless/boat paddle configuration, with a Leupie 2.5 Ultralight shooting Federal 50 grain bullets.

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Originally Posted by TWR
If there was a good dependable AR that weighed in under 5 lbs, I'd have one.

But there are certain things I won't settle for and the carbon/plastic guns are not for me. As to John Burns' carbon 15, I've seen too many of those have problems when a friend used to sell them way before BM bought them out. John is lucky he found a good one.


Well I got a good one. I think they had all the bugs worked out about the time Bushmaster did the hostile takeover of the company. Kind of sad that nobody is making something equivalent.

My nieces love the thing. grin

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That thing is about a perfect match to the OP specs. I would love to wade into a wolf pack with it and a 20 round PMAG of 70gr VLDs. laugh


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Montucky 223/.243/.257, they would all kill wolves just fine.


Can you hook me up with a link?

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Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Montucky 223/.243/.257, they would all kill wolves just fine.


Can you hook me up with a link?

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Kimber Montana.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/model-84m/montana-3

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90?

Another interesting notion, which I appreciate, but the price might be a bit of a stumbling block. Not that it is out of the question, but I would probably need to make sure there were no equally effective choices at a lower price point before recommending it.

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Thanks for the link UPhiker.

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A P90!? Holy crap mall ninjas are real.....

You realize the 5.7 is virtually identical to a 22WMR in terminal ballistics, correct?

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Originally Posted by utah708
Originally Posted by UPhiker
If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90?

Another interesting notion, which I appreciate, but the price might be a bit of a stumbling block. Not that it is out of the question, but I would probably need to make sure there were no equally effective choices at a lower price point before recommending it.


The 16" version is 6 1/2 pounds before optics and a loaded magazine.


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
A P90!? Holy crap mall ninjas are real.....

You realize the 5.7 is virtually identical to a 22WMR in terminal ballistics, correct?
Yeah, and I hate the PS90. It seemed like it would fit his scenario. He was worried about wolves (plural), which would probably mean that he wanted a semi and he didn't have the steadiness for a handgun.
The PS90 is short, light, handy, overpriced and ugly.

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I have never worked with it, but I thought it was more Hornet/.218 Bee category.

I can scarcely imagine the look on peoples' faces when the pleasant looking old guy and the fuzzy dog go ambling past, with a PS90 slung on. That would pucker the Missoula latte crowd.

But back to our regularly scheduled programming...I am not an AR15 wonk. I do not know all the tinker toys that are out there that people are using to build them up. I posted this in the AR forum because I wanted to learn from people with more experience how light one could feasibly go in that platform.

We are on page 8 of the thread, and I really do not have a much better sense of an answer to that straightforward question than I did before, except that it is possible to go so light as to become questionable in terms of function. It is clear that Big Stick likes the Kimber Montana, but I think we learned that about 15,000 posts ago.

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Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live.

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Originally Posted by TWR
Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live.


And if it is not reliable, it is not worth carrying.

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Ever give thought to a 223 Montana?

Hint.................


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Originally Posted by TWR
Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live.


What were the issues? Mine cycles fast and a good mag is a requirement.

It is gassed pretty heavy but that does not bother me if the mag is up to the task of getting the next round set for feeding. I will replace the bolt at 2000rnds. Like a pistol gased AR it just makes sense. grin

Sure would beat a silly bolt gun if a fellow was neck deep in a wuff pack. laugh

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Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live.


And if it is not reliable, it is not worth carrying.


Yet mine is very reliable. cool And worth carrying to boot. grin




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John, you know a lot more about AR's then I do.

What light profile barrel would you choose?


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I've shot or got,everything thus far cited...save the P90.

Pass the Montucky 223 and hold the Fluff.

Hint...................


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