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Finally got a chance to try the 62 gr tsx out of the RAR 22/250. Only loaded six in case I had to pull them,but the first three went into about 3/4 in. Just tried the lowest load I could find of IMR 4895,seated to the max COL. Should be about 3300 fps,no signs of keyholeing ,so the 10" twist is at least adequate. Pics later when not on my phone.
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I shoot them at 3400fps in a 21" 223AI.
Actually,multiple 21" 223AI's.
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I shoot them at 3400fps in a 21" 223AI.
Actually,multiple 21" 223AI's.
Hint................ One wonders if one could AI the American 22/250 and have it feed through the magazine. 223 also for that matter.... Kaiser Norton
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Of course.
3700fps+ in the 22-250AI,with a 22" spout.
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I shoot them at 3400fps in a 21" 223AI.
Actually,multiple 21" 223AI's.
Hint................ One wonders if one could AI the American 22/250 and have it feed through the magazine. 223 also for that matter.... Kaiser Norton I've run 223AI through the mag without a hitch...
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there was some question whether the 62gr would work out of a 1-10 twist.barnes says it requires a 1-9 twist.
there is no info for this bullet in the barnes manual for the 22-250,IIRC,due to COAL consideration. IIRC I loaded them to 2.3257,slightly over Max COAL,which IIRC,is 2.325
Now with those questions beginning to be answered,I can get on further down the line. by the way,the 62 gr tsx shot through the 8" ash tree the target is attached to.
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Have shot 'em through 10's,since their inception.
8" is where it's at though..............
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Have shot 'em through 10's,since their inception. G 8" is where it's at though.............. Guess I should have listened closer.I would have asked for some advice.
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Paying attention,will never not bear fruit...........
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Shooters pro shop has the 62's on sale 38 per 100 and 180 per 500 if I'm remembering right.
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I'm stocked up...............(grin)
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Have shot 'em through 10's,since their inception. G 8" is where it's at though.............. Guess I should have listened closer.I would have asked for some advice. You are not going to get an off the rack 1:8 22-250 anyway.. A 1:10 off the rack 22-250 is about as good as it gets and a 62 TSX is nothing sneeze at for deer and other similar sized game.. For the most part about the only time you need a high zoot BC .22 cal bullet is shooting paper, steel, rocks, gophers, coyotes, wolves, and seals at long range.. Right squirrel boy?
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It's your Imagination,Pretend to shoot it any way that you please...................
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Hopefully,my son will get a nice buck with it this year. Last year he got a nice doe with a 53 tsx in this same rifle,but I loaded all the rest of those I had in 223 brass,then sold the rifle,wanting one with a faster twist barrel.
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I hear good things,about increased RPM.................
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What's the heaviest TSX, TTSX a 12 twist .22-250 will handle?
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Weight has no bearing...it's length.
Requisite RPM is a function of twist and velocity.
You may get away with a 53,depending on your ACTUAL twist and velocity...............
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I know length is the issue and mono-metals are long for weight compared to lead.
I have Barnes 50's and 53's, haven't tried either in my slow twist .22-250. May have to load both just to see how they perform.
We encounter hogs from time to time and the .22-250 is a great hog killer with most bullets, makes a great truck gun. I like the idea of using Barnes on hogs.
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Added to say, I've tried speed to help stabilize marginal twists. Twist trumps speed, IME. Speed helps, but can do just so much.
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I had a cz 527 in 223 with a 1-12 twist,and it shot the 53 just dandy.
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Take notes and apply same.
Hint.................
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Thanks for that info. If your 12 twist .223 stabilized the 53 gr. Barnes, the faster 12 twist .22-250 should do just fine. Should be one bad, hog killing round.
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You'll want to determine ACTUAL twist rate(s).
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It's often revealing................(grin)
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I just loaded some 50 gr. and 53 gr. TSX FB's to try in my 60's vintage M-700 .22-250.
I have 50 rounds loaded with 60 gr. Ralph Council bullets, no blood drawn yet. They're hand made, primarily for BR shooting.
My hunting bud killed 6 hogs on the Red River levee at his place, yesterday, with a heavy barrel M-70 .22-250 and Council bullets I loaded for him. He said those bullets hammered the hogs with good exit wounds. Some were shot in the head and neck, others thru the chest. All were DRT, now hanging in the cooler.
Ralph said his bullets perform well on critters. Guess he was right. They are super accurate.
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I think you just talked me into a Montucky 223...............(grin)
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Awww... You know you got a safe full of Montucky's, for sure several in .223, .223 AI, etc, etc... Bet you just don't have a .22-204... And, I have two, one fast twist, one slow... DF
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My only 223 is a 110 Savage and though I'm not sure of the twist,it is very accurate.............
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Salvages shoot good, but they ugly... Kinda like showing up at the prom with the homeliest girl in the class... DF
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She had a beautiful personality.
Laughing!..............
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And, I won't inquire concerning her other "talents". Will just leave that one alone... DF
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Biggie - "I'm not sure of the twist... My only 223 is a 110 Savage" Are you serious? Not sure of the twist...you raked me over the coals because I KNEW the twist of my RAR .22/250 was 1:10 BUT you (and others) would not believe it. Gimme a break...DC pol's may get away with that excuse BUT you? Homesteader
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I'm new to this twist stuff.
Don't hurt my feelings,by doing your best.
Laughing!..............
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Thanks for that info. If your 12 twist .223 stabilized the 53 gr. Barnes, the faster 12 twist .22-250 should do just fine. Should be one bad, hog killing round.
DF I decided to see if the 62 would shoot in the the 10" twist,(Barnes says it needs a 9")because one of the two deer we got last year with the 22-250, stopped a 53 tsx(loaded slow)at about 40 yards. I shot her quartering away,bedded,and the bullet lodged in the shoulder joint on the far side. recovered 53 gr tsx no exit my sons was a little high,but effective. exit I think the step up to the 62,and another 300 fps ,should be even more effective.
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The 62 does nice things,even at a 3750fps launch...............
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