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Spend the $200 and SBR it! I'll be skipping the tax stamp. Too much of a PITA to take it across state lines.
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That is my take as well. Also final see the merit of the 300bo like a 11 inch barreled pistol and much more effective than a 45acp then there is the 30 rounds thing. I hate this place now I have to kill a deer with a 30 caliber pistol.
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I kept wondering what the big deal was with people saying they'd get a pistol instead of an sbr. Now I understand, and I'm thinking I just might have to build one. Only thing is I'm not keen about the muzzle blast from a 10.5" tube and if I put a can on it I'm in the same boat as an sbr.
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I kept wondering what the big deal was with people saying they'd get a pistol instead of an sbr. Now I understand, and I'm thinking I just might have to build one. Only thing is I'm not keen about the muzzle blast from a 10.5" tube and if I put a can on it I'm in the same boat as an sbr.
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You're only in half the boat as an SBR.
SBR with a can = 2 stamps. And the suppressor can be moved from gun to gun, making it a little more useful than an SBR lower.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Yeah, I know it needs two stamps and the can will interchange between guns. It's the hassle, expense and wait on NFA items I'm grousing about.
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If you buy a stripped lower marked "other" on the 4473 form by the dealer and put a short barrel on it....is it a pistol??
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Taking a pistol across state lines is different from taking an SBR across state lines. I will live without a suppressor. Wait someone already said that! 
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I don't think I can get an AR in rifle, handgun or SBR through Canada, so the NFA angle is mute on that end. However I could see myself putting a 22rf, 22cf, 30, 35 and 45 suppressor to use 
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Just to clarify.... You use them like a rifle...
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If you buy a stripped lower marked "other" on the 4473 form by the dealer and put a short barrel on it....is it a pistol?? More or less, yes. Keep in mind, I'm not an attorney, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you set it up as a rifle, it's a rifle, and must remain as a rifle. Set it up as a pistol, it's a pistol, and must remain as a pistol. I asked an FFL about it this weekend and he said the label the stripped lowers as "receiver" on the form.
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Just to clarify.... You use them like a rifle... No kidding?
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I have done more research on it, my FFL labels them as "other" when he sells them and once you build it as Pistol its a pistol forever.
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Just to clarify.... You use them like a rifle... the 12 inch barreled uppers are cheaper than the 9 inch uppers I have seen. I guess 9 is long enough and more popular as a pistol length i.e. better balance.
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heck, get two of them, one for each arm, and run screaming at any home invaders. You actually won't have to shoot them, they will out-run you to get away. can you post a video of this technique! I am sure it will be an instant campfire classic.
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Just to clarify.... You use them like a rifle... No kidding? No. Really. He's read some of the schidt you've posted, therefore he knew that needed to be stated:) I looked at a Sig Pistol today with the brace. It looked like about an 11.5 in LOP with that particular buffer tube that Sig uses. The internet buzz says the extended KAK buffer tube is the one to get. It has a raised portion to prevent the brace from sliding forward. An 11.5in upper, gassed right, with the proper spring and buffer, would be a slick little setup. A good comp like a BCM would help. I'm thinking about doing one with an A1/carrying handle upper and putting an Aimpoint on one of the old SOPMOD gooseneck mounts.
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If you buy a stripped lower marked "other" on the 4473 form by the dealer and put a short barrel on it....is it a pistol?? More or less, yes. Keep in mind, I'm not an attorney, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you set it up as a rifle, it's a rifle, and must remain as a rifle. Set it up as a pistol, it's a pistol, and must remain as a pistol. I asked an FFL about it this weekend and he said the label the stripped lowers as "receiver" on the form. On a side note, how are giys doing the same swaps with Encores and not running afoul?
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If you buy a stripped lower marked "other" on the 4473 form by the dealer and put a short barrel on it....is it a pistol?? More or less, yes. Keep in mind, I'm not an attorney, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you set it up as a rifle, it's a rifle, and must remain as a rifle. Set it up as a pistol, it's a pistol, and must remain as a pistol. I asked an FFL about it this weekend and he said the label the stripped lowers as "receiver" on the form. On a side note, how are giys doing the same swaps with Encores and not running afoul? Good question. I wouldn't do it.
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On a side note, how are giys doing the same swaps with Encores and not running afoul?
If it is first assembled as a pistol, it can be turned into a rifle, and swapped back. If it is first assembled as a rifle, it is a rifle and can not be switched into a pistol.
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