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Tell me how heat is "good" for a barrel?

I don't understand the discussion...you let the damned thing cool down when it gets too hot.

Amen Hondo. It's apparent many guys here have never participated in any "slow fire" comps where you put 10 shots downrange. 10 shots in (lets say) 10 minutes is not going to hurt the barrel any more than 10 cold bore shots on a warm day. Id also bet taylorce1's rifle is extremely capable with the right person behind it. I'd also add that you don't need a matchgrade bullet to shoot sub moa 10 shot groups at 100 yards.



Bingo Bob. You put it so elegantly....

Tell me how 10 whole shots is "bad" for a barrel?

You guys sure have lots of knowledge. Must be from all the shooting you do.

Shooting will burn up a good barrel.

How are you going to know if you have a good barrel if you don't shoot it? Barrels are consumable IMO just like welding rod. You can't become a good wrlder without burning some sticks.

Show me where I said 10 shots would hurt a barrel................

No problem.

McGowan are corncob rough schit spouts,of schit stress relief and walk like crazy. HS is a POS handle,due both ergo's and materials. Vortex sucks heavy ass,due it's limited adjustment and dog schit tracking.

You be certain to tell yourself,I've never shot a rifle.

Laughing!...............

I'd take 3-shots of POA/POI correlation in a SOUND rifle(the POS cited,assuredly is NOT) and get the warm/fuzzy with the trio slamming targets of interest at say 500,700 and 1000.

'Course,100yd paper punching bores me to tears and offers nothing of substance in reflection of the platform's relative abilities/attributes.

Hint...............

I should have said it depends on the cartridge. if your shooting a 223, 10 rounds is nothing. same with 308. however with an overbore round like the 243 imo its not a good thing. Now if you don't care much for the barrel then by all means its your barrel, cook it. I have a 243 ai with a 5r krieger barrel. I would never put 10 rounds down it all at once. why??? because I like the barrel too much!!! its the best barrel I have ever owned.

I said there is no place for a 10 shot group, I do fire groups like that but ONLY during ladder testing to find a load. I generally only load 8 of a given powder with different charges. I also try to break it up with 4 shots quickly then I let the barrel cool a bit and fire the last 4.

someone said 3 shot groups don't show you anything, bull crap. once you have a load its a great way to check your loads and your zero. 10 shots introduces too much variables if ultimate accuracy is your goal. you get an insane amount of barrel heat. go ahead grab your 243 barrel after 10 rounds and tell me whats up. put another way there is simply no reason to fire a 10 shot group all of the same bullet and powder charge. I have never shot at an animal more than about 3 times. after I have also hit something 3 times I am looking for a new challenge.

its your barrel do what you want. I am not doing it with mine, at least one I care about.

I have ZERO qualm whistling more than 10 through my 1-8" Brux 6-284...with 105's at Warp Nine.

It's a phuqqing barrrel,MADE for shooting.

Hint.................

For more conversation,I've seen alotta 200rd+ 243AI days...simply forming.

You'd be in the fetal position sucking your thumb,if you had an inkling!...............

See what was so hard about that? My small sampling off McGowen, HSP, and Vortex didn't mirror yours, but we don't always have the same exact experience. I'm glad you finally shared yours.

However, no where did I boldly state you never shot a rifle. I just had to push a button to get you to open up.

Funnier than phuqq,that you could "think" I was somehow "unfamiliar" with such things?!?

In fairness...HS do make a fair barrel and I've never failed one of their 1st Gen DBM's.................

10 round groups with a 243w will just destroy the barrel.....

This is some funny shidt..Glad I stopped by today.

To the OP, use the McGowen as a tomato stake, and use the vortex to drive the POS..Life is too short.

You're gonna wear that barrel out prematurely due to excessive heat build up. I fire two shots and let my barrel cool no matter how large the group number is.

One six shot group I fired took six days: One shot every morning for six days. I know where that rifle is going to place its cold bore shot.

Stop it!

Yep...setting that POS in the house for hours/days between shots,REALLY lets a guy "know".

I'm phuqqing crying I'm laughing soooooooooo hard!...............

She sets that POS on the couch next to her and guns CBS "confirmations",between episodes of Oprah and martha Stewart...to pinpoint it's Emotional Stability in the inclement weather of those storms.

I'm HOWLING!.............