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I'm not as much against the self check out as I'm against being forced to use it. A lot of times I've seen one lane open and 3 checkers helping people use the self check out, with three regular registers closed and 10-15 people waiting to go through the one regular check out.
If Walmart wants me to check myself out, they should offer me a 5% discount to do it.
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I'm not as much against the self check out as I'm against being forced to use it. A lot of times I've seen one lane open and 3 checkers helping people use the self check out, with three regular registers closed and 10-15 people waiting to go through the one regular check out.
If Walmart wants me to check myself out, they should offer me a 5% discount to do it. I like that idea . One night we had a very large order as did 2 other parties. We were lined up back to the clothes and down the middle isle. I watched the manager stand there and do nothing but look down for several minutes. I finally walked up to the checker and asked if she could call the manager to check. She did and he finally pulled the lead out of his shoes. We went through his line and asked if he was having trouble with his employees and he reported he had 5 employees call in sick that day. It was one of the first nice sunny days so they were probably "sick" of work.
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They're going to eventually replace the counter workers whether they're being paid $15 an hour or $7.25 an hour. Any worker whose job can be replaced by a machine will be. How many welders do you see working in car factories anymore?
Unless you find people willing to work for 15 cents an hour the machine will always come out cheaper. And be a chit-ton faster, more respectful and speak fluent English!
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They're going to eventually replace the counter workers whether they're being paid $15 an hour or $7.25 an hour. Any worker whose job can be replaced by a machine will be. How many welders do you see working in car factories anymore?
Unless you find people willing to work for 15 cents an hour the machine will always come out cheaper. Not so fast, my friend. Personal attention and customer service do mean something. I can grocery shop around here at Publix or Kroger. Both are upscale, have-everything supermarkets. Kroger has 50% self check out, Publix plenty of human beings. Prices are the same within pennies. I shop with the humans attending to me instead of my running the machine for them. Same with the local Home Depot vs. Lowe's. Lowe's has people Home Depot 70% self serve.
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I'm not as much against the self check out as I'm against being forced to use it. A lot of times I've seen one lane open and 3 checkers helping people use the self check out, with three regular registers closed and 10-15 people waiting to go through the one regular check out.
If Walmart wants me to check myself out, they should offer me a 5% discount to do it. I solved that problem by not going to WalMart. I buy oil, filters and vehicle batteries at WalMart. That's about it. I shop at Home Depot because there is no one asking me if I need help (not that they ask at Lowes). #1 wife does the grocery shopping, mostly when I'm not with her. I get toothpaste and occasionally vitamins and a "Happy Anniversary" card once a year at Target. Everything else including clothes I get at Academy. My gun stuff (powder, primers and some bullets) I get at the LGS. So Home Depot is about the extent of my self check opportunities. Alan
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They won't save any money using machines to make the food, because they will need maintenance people to troublehsoot them, and employees to clean them on a regular schedule.
If the machine breaks, the whole business stops.
If a minumum wage employee doesn't show up, you can have someone cover for them, and still make money
How many employee's does it take to make 360 burgers per hour? How many does it take to clean a machine once a day? They will cut their front counter labor costs by 80%. Right now with interest rates low, the cost of capital is low which works to lower the overall cost of ownership of these machines. The time to strike for higher wages is when the cost of capital is high, not when it's low.
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They won't save any money using machines to make the food, because they will need maintenance people to troublehsoot them, and employees to clean them on a regular schedule.
If the machine breaks, the whole business stops.
If a minumum wage employee doesn't show up, you can have someone cover for them, and still make money
Might be a potentially lucrative technical trade worth looking into deeper. A Diebold technician told me a few years back that they had maintenance contracts for the self-checkout equipment with some major big box stores chains. Most likely will be interesting to see how well those fast food contraptions fare down in the 'Hood's.
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They won't save any money using machines to make the food, because they will need maintenance people to troublehsoot them, and employees to clean them on a regular schedule.
If the machine breaks, the whole business stops.
If a minumum wage employee doesn't show up, you can have someone cover for them, and still make money
The maintenance and cleaning people for the machines will be contract people. The chains will need very few employees.
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Hell, you don't eat at Mickey D's for the ambience...
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Well we still need "people" to design, manufacture, import,export, transport, install, maintain and service all of these Machines and everything that goes along with them.
The Machine may replace the McWorker, but the Machine opens up a whole new world of Manufacturing, design etc.etc.
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I don't care about fast food. It's not a necessity.
But I refuse to use self checkout anywhere that has them. Not only do I worry about the loss of jobs, but I just want face to face interaction.
It all started with self serve gas and ATM machines. Don't have much of a choice with gas, but I won't use ATMs if I don't have to
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The last 50-100 times I've been through Mickey D's has been drive through.
That is the entire point.
I've never even tried self checkout.
Too many people.
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I don't mind using the self checkouts if I only have a few items but it's slow if you have a cart full. Prefer to shop for groceries and household goods either very early in the morning or late at night when stores aren't crowded. Most fast food via drive through, if I want fast food I want it fast!
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That will 'allow' those $15/hr aspirants to learn a new trade; maintaining and/or building those robots... Most fast food via drive through, if I want fast food I want it fast! I hear ya.. But, around here, lately there's so many cars waiting for 'fast food' that it's literally "faster" to park, walk to the counter and order/get it there.. BTDT..
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They won't save any money using machines to make the food, because they will need maintenance people to troublehsoot them, and employees to clean them on a regular schedule.
If the machine breaks, the whole business stops.
If a minumum wage employee doesn't show up, you can have someone cover for them, and still make money
I guess that's why the whole Industrial Revolution thing never panned out. .
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I don't always eat at McDonalds but when I do they screw up my order. Maybe replacing the current staff would be a good solution for poor service. chuckle.
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The bad part is , the machine will give you better service. If i decide to eat at a fast food , i go in and order much faster than the drive-through
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They won't save any money using machines to make the food, because they will need maintenance people to troublehsoot them, and employees to clean them on a regular schedule.
If the machine breaks, the whole business stops.
If a minumum wage employee doesn't show up, you can have someone cover for them, and still make money
You should google the word "reality." Travis
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I refuse to do self-checkout because I don't work at Wal-Mart. It's as simple as that.
Not to mention "self-checkout" at Wal-Mart is not self-checkout.
R rated movie? Need an employee.
Buying a can of spray paint? Need an employee for that.
Permanent marker? Need an employee for that too.
Beer? Yep. GFY.
Cigarettes? Oh, you have to go to the special cigarette aisle for that.
Only when those underage can buy soft porn, alcohol, and tobacco without being pestered, will I support such a system.
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Give me an app for the phone where I can order and pay as I drive up to the restaurant, and the machine makes the order hot to order as I pull into the drive through lane (or, God forbid) go inside to eat.
If I never have to deal with another surly, mealy mouthed, incompetent, pimply faced teenager at a fast food restaurant, I won't shed many tears......
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