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Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Seafire #9178195 09/14/14
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,064 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,064 Banana Belt, Montana	Yeah, they're the same powder. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

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Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads ingwe #9178244 09/14/14
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,057 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,057 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by ingwe Besides, if you want to shoot 140s, they make .270s for that�. What! Is this a "coming out" announcement...? DF

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Dirtfarmer #9178372 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter
Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Originally Posted by ingwe Besides, if you want to shoot 140s, they make .270s for that�. What! Is this a "coming out" announcement...? DF Oh Nooooooo..... another 270 lover out of the closet. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Prwlr #9178380 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads ingwe #9178398 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter
Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Hey my father smelled of gooseberries. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

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Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Prwlr #9178403 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Believe it or not, I just finished off the last of the chiles you sent me. thanks again for that! My wife lived in NM for awhile and was really tickled that she got to scorch and peel them! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads ingwe #9178426 09/14/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	I have tried several loads with 4350 in my 7x57 , but it just doesn't gives me the accuracy that Hod 4831 does. My favorite deer bullet in the 7x57 is the Sierra 160 gr BTHP with Hod 4831SC A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads bea175 #9178483 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter
Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Ingwe Just had 2 bushels roasted. One of Mirasol a local medium hot variant grown east Pueblo CO and one of Poblano also locally grown which is slightly milder. Usually go through about 1 -2 bushels a year. Addicting stuff. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Prwlr #9178494 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter
Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Mule Deer 231 = HP38 296 = H110 760 = H414 = A2700 MRP = RL22 Any others to add to the list? Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Prwlr #9178595 09/14/14
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,057 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,057 Central Louisiana	Allegedly: Norma 204=RL-19 Norma 203B=RL-15 MRP2/now Norma 217=RL-25 And ADI/Hodgdon equivalents: AS30N=Clays AS50N=International AP7ON=Universal AR2205=H4227 AR2207=H4198 AR2219=H322 Bench Mark2=BenchMark AR2206H=H4895 AR2208=Varget AR2209=H4350 AR2213SC=H4831 AR2217=H1000 AR2225=Retumbo AR2218=H50BMG DF

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Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Dirtfarmer #9178706 09/14/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO Prwlr Campfire Outfitter
Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Thanks Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Mule Deer #9179623 09/15/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,844	Originally Posted by Mule Deer I've owned over a dozen 7x57's now (and am planning yet another) ... Alright, John, let's hear the details! And thanks for the info. I'm collecting 7x57 data since sometime soon I hope to start doing something I haven't done since the early 1980s: handload. I enjoyed your "beginning handloading" article in Guns magazine as I'm going to be starting from ground zero again. It was helpful. But back to the details.... Mike "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads RevMike #9179666 09/15/14
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,064 Banana Belt, Montana	It's actually not a completely new rifle. My NULA Model 24 .30-06's barrel is getting a little tired, and is also a 24" #2. I'm getting older and along becoming less fond of hauling around any extra weight, either on me or my gear. Also don't tolerate recoil like I used to, and don't travel as much, where taking a .30-06 can come in handy if you need more ammo. Haven't found an '06 kills big game any deader than the 7x57 does, either. Found a take-off, like-new, 22" #1 contour 7x57 NULA (Douglas) barrel here on the Campfire and will screw it on sometime soon, though whether before the hunting season just coming up is doubtful. It will save about a half-pound of weight, and still kill stuff. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Mule Deer #9179676 09/15/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,844	Nice! Isn't it funny how weight/recoil/etc become issues as we get older? Or is it just becoming a bit wiser.... "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads RevMike #9179701 09/15/14
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,064 Banana Belt, Montana	Actually, I can still shoot rifles of heavier recoil fine. Last year I did two articles for AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where I had to shoot .300 Winchester Magnums quite a bit off the bench in various tests. But I don't want to if somebody's not paying me--or there's some other compelling reason, like a Cape buffalo. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Mule Deer #9179714 09/15/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,844	Originally Posted by Mule Deer But I don't want to if somebody's not paying me--or there's some other compelling reason, like a Cape buffalo. Cash or Cape Buffalo - yeah, that'd do it!! "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads RevMike #9179742 09/15/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,059 Washington State Wacenturion Campfire Regular
Wacenturion Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,059 Washington State	Anyone here with experience using Ramshot powders in the 7x57? "By the time you realize your father was a smart man, you have a teenager telling you just how stupid you are."

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Wacenturion #9180163 09/15/14
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Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,064 Banana Belt, Montana	Big Game works pretty darn well, since it's close to H414/W760 in burn rate, but far more temperature-resistant and cleaner burning. Hunter also works well with heavier bullets, say from 150 grains up. It's burn rate is usually a little slower than the 4350's, around Reloder 19's. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Mule Deer #9180193 09/15/14
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Wacenturion Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,059 Washington State	Thanks John....have both Big Game and Hunters on hand. With a pair of brand new Model 70 7x57's I was hoping they would work well. Last edited by Wacenturion; 09/15/14. "By the time you realize your father was a smart man, you have a teenager telling you just how stupid you are."

Re: 7x57 Mule Deer loads Wacenturion #9180281 09/15/14
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bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	What is a good load with Hunter and the 160 gr bullet? A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

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