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If you could build anything on a long action for shooting and hunting game up to Elk size, what would it be? What needs to be taken into account, is the price per round (when reloading), long range performance and inherent accuracy. The rifle can be up to light varmint weight.

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I put together a rifle for hunting antelope and plains mule deer with it serving as a back up elk rifle. I ended up with a vanguard action 26" #4 contour chambered in .264 win. 1/8 twist. Weight is right at 10 lbs with scope and is all the more weight I want in a hunting rifle.


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There are so many to pick from but I would have to say 7mm Remington would be a good choice unless you don't like belts then Id say 280 ackley

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Define long range? 300 win mag or 300 wsm would be my starting point for elk at longer than typical hunting ranges (300 yards or less).

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There are so many to pick from but I would have to say 7mm Remington would be a good choice unless you don't like belts then Id say 280 ackley


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John,
I've got an older 700 25-06 and two Brux barrels, one a 9 twist 7mm and one a 8.5 twist 6.5mm. I'm thinking the same thing...


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If we are going to include wildcats, I would go with my new 6.5SLR. It is nothing more than a long neck .264 Win Mag without the belt with Weatherby radii. It weighs six pounds thirteen ounces with a 26" barrel. It carries the z5 5-25X52.


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Originally Posted by m77
If you could build anything on a long action for shooting and hunting game up to Elk size, what would it be? What needs to be taken into account, is the price per round (when reloading), long range performance and inherent accuracy. The rifle can be up to light varmint weight.

Would appreciate any opinions

Thanks

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If it is a standard boltface in my opinion you can do no better than a 280 AI shooting a 162 Hornady A-Max. Mine will be done soon. If a magnum I'd recommend a 7 Rem Mag shooting the same bullet or a 264 Win Mag shooting a 140 Berger or 140 A-max. Good luck

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300 win mag. Kill every thing from here to there. Wantbees have free bore that sucks 264 not best for elk 7 mm good 300 better.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
300 win mag. Kill every thing from here to there. Wantbees have free bore that sucks 264 not best for elk 7 mm good 300 better.


This IMHO smile .

I don't know for sure but hear that components are expensive and not always available in SA, so I would want "common" brass. 7 Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag are the ones I'd grab and you don't leave anything on the table with either one.

If I were bound and determined to do a wildcat (not required but fun)it would be the 7mm Mashburn Super because it will produce more velocity than the 7 Rem Mag with heavy bullets,and one pass through the dies makes brass from common 300 Win Mag cases.

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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30-06: Easy to reload, light rifle, doesn't beat you up when you shoot it. I can make shots at longer range if I wanted, but, I really like making shots at closer range.
Bullet weights from 150-200 grains, I'm sure you can get the job done.
I like to use 180 grain bullet mostly anymore. I've never had a gun in 30-06 fail me.
Ammo is easy to find in most stores.

I have rifles in larger and smaller caliber to use, and they are nice rifles too. My favorite is my 30-06.

Wish you luck on you on your new gun.

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Okay, my real long range rig is my 338 RUM. Shooting 250-300 grain bullets. High BC rules, for long range shooting. I just bought some Honady 285 grain Amax has 720 BC, I will try these once it cools off some.
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Originally Posted by Hammerdown

30-06: Easy to reload, light rifle, doesn't beat you up when you shoot it. I can make shots at longer range if I wanted, but, I really like making shots at closer range.
Bullet weights from 150-200 grains, I'm sure you can get the job done.
I like to use 180 grain bullet mostly anymore. I've never had a gun in 30-06 fail me.
Ammo is easy to find in most stores.

I have rifles in larger and smaller caliber to use, and they are nice rifles too. My favorite is my 30-06.

Wish you luck on you on your new gun.

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The price per round component throws a wrench in things , but anything that produces 1k ftlb of energy at 1k yrds will fit the bill. Big 7mm , 30's , or the dedicated 338's do it well. The 6.5 SAUM does it too.
So I guess the 300WM really shines when the cost per round aspect is considered. I think the cost per round should be considered in relation to barrel life as well , and here the 6.5 SAUM really shines.

(you can build a 6.5 SAUM on a long action)

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Originally Posted by fredIII
264 not best for elk


Wut???


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Originally Posted by Esox357
Define long range? 300 win mag or 300 wsm would be my starting point for elk at longer than typical hunting ranges (300 yards or less).



I was thinking 300 WSM as well, but I think the OP is looking for "long action" cartridges. With that being considered, the next best thing (for me) in long action would be the 7mm rem mag....


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