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My favorite is the 300 Win Mag and mine is in a Remington Custom Shop APR.

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The .300 magnums kick too much for me to enjoy. Nor do I really need one for the game I hunt.

I have a couple however as the rifles were too sweet to pass up.

The one I am shooting now is a custom on an old M70 action with a well done walnut stock. Currently it shot the 150 gr Nosler CT's well over a load of Varget.

When we go up North this season it will not be taken. A favorite 30-06 will be however.

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I only have one 300, it's the Win Mag. Mostly I use a 30-06 or a 338 WM. One of those can do most of what I need.


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300 rum sendero 92 gr h1000 200 gr accubond at 3200 fps.

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Only had experience with the .300 WM but it is My favorite all-around go to cartridge, I own three.................Hb

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Based on the number of rifles in the safe my favorite .308 magnum is a .30-06 by a factor of 2x.


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Originally Posted by morton
300 rum sendero 92 gr h1000 200 gr accubond at 3200 fps.


Run the 180 gr Cutting Edge bullets outta my 300 RUM to 3450 with Retumbo, will have to see how they work on game, accuracy is stellar.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Back a few years ago (about 30 grin ) I had a 300 Win Mag, a 300 Weatherby, and a 300 H&H, all at the same time and all M70 Winchesters. The 300 Win and Weatherby were custom and the H&H was a stock pre 64 M70. I was in my 300 magnum phase learning my way around these cartridges, and I took the Weatherby and Winchester hunting quite a bit. I loaded a bunch of bullets but mostly 180's in all three.


The fastest of the three was the Weatherby which averaged about 3150 from a 24" barrel; the 300 H&H did 3090,and the Winchester was sort of stuck somewhere in the middle of those two. The results sort of surprised me because I had read from various sources that the H&H was no better than the 30/06 ballistically, and the 300 Weatherby was the barn burner high velocity king of the 300 magnum crowd.

But I had never seen a 30/06 do any better than 2750-2800 fps with sane loads. The H&H was close to 300 fps better,and fell behind the Weatherby by a whole 60-70 fps (!) Later on I would learn that, if you outfitted the Weatherby with a 26" barrel and the right powder you would get over 3200 fps with a 180 gr bullet.But I chronographed Weatherby factory ammo with the 180 and it did 3190....not bad,and about 100 fps faster than the H&H with good handloads.......again this ain't what I had read.

I also learned that, if I loaded the 300 Win Mag in a H&H length action and OAL to 3.5+", it would rival the Weatherby for velocity...and in a 24" barrel, so seemed more efficient,I settled for 3150 or so with a 180 gr bullet and used that load for a lot of hunting.Powder charges were 8-10 gr less than the Weatherby,depending on the powder.

Had a bunch of other rifles (factory and custom)chambered for all three cartridges and results were always much the same.

I concluded a few things....first, my old mentor, JOC, was right about a lot of stuff but dead wrong about the H&H vs the 30/06...the old Holland round stomps it with good handloads,even if the factory stuff is nothing to write home about....but that can be said of the 30/06,too with some factory ammo.

Second, while it's good with anything the "best shot" for the 300 Weatherby was with a 26" barrel, and a 200 gr bullet at close to 3100 fps. This is where the bigger case showed some superiority over the smaller one's.

I owned a 300 RUM when it came out,and have sat and watched load development in rifles belonging to friends;shot their rifles quite a bit. It's easily the fastest but I could not fall in love with burning 90+ gr of powder and torching it all off in an 8 pound mountain weight rifle.I'll leave that to others.

I hunted with the H&H, Winchester, and Weatherby, killed a bunch of elk and other animals with the Winchester and Weatherby from hard off the muzzle to 400-500 yards.I found all three to have more punch on heavier animals like elk on the far side of a canyon than a 30/06, which is no toy,but isn't a 30 cal magnum either.

I sort of learned that the velocity differences between the first three cartridges were not really the quantum leaps I had been led to expect, but more like baby steps between all three. What I could do with one I could do with the others,at the range and on game.

So these days when someone asks about "which 300 magnum?" I shrug because once you start a 180 gr bullet at around 3100+- fps it doesn't matter;and at least with these three cartridges there's only 100-150 fps that separates them.

I never used the real heavy match bullets in the 300's but maybe the differences will matter more with those bullets.



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Every once in a blue moon he comes out with a good post......lol.
I agree with him that there basically isn't any real (field) difference between the H&H, 300 Win and 300 Roy. Personally, for my hunting, I don't have any need or want to drive 180 gr bullets at 3400-3500 fps. My 300 Win will drive 180's @ 3100 fps, so if I wanted or needed more " power " I'd be looking at something that drove 338 pills instead of trying to put a pound of powder in a modified Jeffery or Lapua hull.

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Would the 308 Norma be considered a short action mag compared to the Weatherby and H&H?

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Originally Posted by cutNshoot
Would the 308 Norma be considered a short action mag compared to the Weatherby and H&H?


cutNshoot;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope this finds you well on this warm, sunny September Saturday.

As I said in my initial post on this thread, our first Norma was built on a standard 8x57 length wartime 98 action and I chose the Norma because it fit into it with less modification than a .300Win Mag. Honestly I'd have been equally happy with a .30-388 too, but the smith we used had a .308 Norma reamer so that was that.

Anyway the .308 Norma and its twin the .30-338 wouldn't fit into a short action as far as I can determine - so they're not exactly in the same class as the RSM/WSM/RSUM lineup really.

Perhaps they could be best described as "standard" action length magnums - if there is such an animal truly. wink

That's only my take on them of course - there are a couple other .300 magnums to choose from after all and others might have an opinion on them too. grin
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Thank You! And thanks for the education on the case length's.

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Originally Posted by THOMASMAGNUM
Hard not to like the .300 Weatherby Magnum
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Like that stock, who did that?

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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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