Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors LBK... my answer to your private message

Change, in and of itself is neutral. Those of us that have to live through it are the ones that have to decide whether it was good or bad. It's a lot like "progress." Progress is. It's effect on us is up to us to decide.

Well said... and very true, Skid...

How can someone who hasn't live through it make ANY determination at all as to whether or not the change or changes which have occurred are for the "better" or "worse" since they have no REAL experience in the matter, but can only read someone else's opinions or be told by another their thoughts on how good or how bad the change(s) made in THEIR lives.

Naturally, one can have their own opinions, but "being there" is the ultimate and most "valid" & deciding factor.

Jus' my 2�...

Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

It's smart to hang around old guys 'cause they know lotsa stuff...

....but they can't always remember it.

That was mean.




But by this time tomorrow I will have forgotten you were mean to us old guys.

Thats the beauty of it.

Kind of like when the wife goes over to the 15 year old movie collection and asks, "What movie do you want to watch?" and your response is, "I don't care, I haven't seen any of them."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... that's a good one, Fireball2 !~!~!

It's not funny, it happens in our house often!

saves tons of money! always new!

As a follow-up to this. I did in fact make up some handloads for this rifle using the same components EXCEPT for a powder charge. In using the powder I used, I also went against some very good advice. I found loads that would work using BOTH IMR as well as Hodgen 4895. I used RL-15 which I found in every recent manufacture manual I have, and I have a bunch of different manuals. The load I worked up to was a Hornady load out of their 7th edition manual. The load started at 32.1 grs and I worked up to 33.4 and settled on that. The manual claims 2800 FPS out of a 24" barrel in 1-14 twist. My 1899 250-3000 has a 22 in barrel and my average velocity was 2709 FPS and I figured the muzzle energy to be 1629 foot pounds at the muzzle. I was really quite pleased for this load and how much it out performed factory.

As an aside. This rifle will be 99 years old on November 22nd. This will be day number two of the hunt, so I make this prediction. I will kill a buck on that day with this rifle.............




I also decided on taking my .308 EG to the island again. I have plenty of handloads on hand for this rifle so it will help keep the work down. I fired a total of ten rounds through my chronograph. All 10 rounds were within the minute of deer kill zone. What I WAS surprised at was that a 165 grain round nose was faster than a 165 grain spire point. Both were Hornady bullets.

Thanks for the report! I have been using nothing but RL-15 in both the .250 and .300 for several years now. Velocity and accuracy are both top notch!

I've found RL15 to be excellent in the 250 and 300 Savage cartridges.

It's great if you want to make a 250 a real 250-3000 with 87 grain bullets. The accuracy in my rifle is superb, and the pressure appears to be modest.

Up until now, I have ONLY used 87 grain pills. I bought a model 14 American Classic just to try something different. It worked OK but lacked the "explosiveness" of shooting one with that tiny little bombshell. Then with all the talk of certain bullets bullets keyholing in the 1-14 twist barrel I wanted to see for myself. I haven't fired a silvertip yet that didn't fly perfectly. I am certain that once I kill a deer with this particular rifle it will be back to my 87's and 3018 FPS.

The 25 cal 100 grain Silvertips I've had were rather blunt flat bases. It would be a likely candidate for a 100 that would work in a 1-14" barrel.

Steve (Longbeardking)...

This only goes to prove that old axiom... "Different strokes for different folks.", n'est pas, mon ami?

Glad you checked out those different loads and that you are completely satisfied with your old load with the 87 grain bullet. It's been very effective on deer for close to 100 years.


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

The Nosler load with H4895 and 100 grain Ballistic Tips has been great for me too.

My load for the Model 14 250SAV is Nosler's book max H4895 with Fed 210 primer,100gr Partition, and Remington brass. The accuracy tighten up right at book max. Worked well on Anticosti last year. Nice to watch the deer drop through the scope. The 1 in 14 99F does very well with R15 and 87gr Speer. Maybe I should bring that in case LBK needs a backup.

Yes, you should. But LBK won't need no stinking back-up. I can make deer drop just being close by. The minute they even THINK there's a Savage in 250-3000 in the immediate vacinity they just line up to get shot............

I got to go find my "REALLY TALL"boots now !!!!!!