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Dr. Schofield PHD.........Piled high and damp!!!!!!!!!!! 
NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it)
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato
Deuteronomy 22:5
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Campfire Ranger
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The BIG surprise was shooting one of my 1899 250-3000's. Again, Winchester silver box 100 grain silvertip factory. Through a chronograph. Average velocity just BARELY broke 2100 fps. I was stunned. I expected in the neighborhood of 28/2900 fps. Accuracy was about 1 1/2-2" at 100 yds. And the bullet holes showed no sign of key-holing.
I've had factory .25-06 ammo in the past, that was a good 400 fps under rated speeds. And the last box of factory 150gr .300 Savages was in the 2300's. I'm almost of the opinion one needs a chrono, even if you don't handload, just to be sure of the factory velocity.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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I don't know what to tell you other than this. Whether you handload or not chances are you're going to check your rifle before you hunt with it. You can kill a deer with a pointy stick from a bow. You aren't depending on energy to achieve your goal. You are looking for a lethal cut. Not so with a bullet. You (I) want as much energy as I can safely get and without proper velocity (adequate) your downrange energy suffers. At ranges of 100 yards or less it isn't much of an issue. But you start stretching your barrel, for the animal's sake please know your velocity. This last week I set up and pulled every bullet out of EVERY factory round that was in my ammo chest and dumped the powder. It will all get reloaded as needed. I know guys that have never reloaded a round in their lives and that's OK. I am just not that person. I'm not out there to hurt the animal I'm out there to kill it and do it as humanely as possible. Sorry for the rant.
NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it)
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato
Deuteronomy 22:5
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Steve (LBK)...
I'd bet that most of us who hunt and reload as well feel the same as you feel about making "clean" kills with a minimum of causing any unnecessary suffering by the game we've shot.
To do less is unsportsman-like and not in a REAL hunter's "book".
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
It's smart to hang around old guys 'cause they know lotsa stuff...
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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Just now messing with my pastors 250-3000 99F. He's not a handloader. 87 grain Speers- Top loads of Varget and H4895 got 1 1/2" groups at 80 yards. Went to IMR 4064 35.5 grains and found the sweet spot, 5/8"-3/4", book velocity 3080 fps. Have not chronied yet.
Very nice load at 35-35.5 grains.
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