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can't be shutting down the government in an election year. To hell with principles.




House Speaker John Boehner (R.-Ohio) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) joined forces early Wednesday evening as the House passed a continuing resolution that will fund the government after the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30, and that will permit funding for Planned Parenthood (the nation's largest abortion provider), the entirety of Obamacare, and an amendment requested by President Barack Obama "to train and equip appropriately vetted elements of the Syrian opposition."

The bill passed 319 to 108 with four members not voting. But there were not enough Republican members to pass the bill without significant support from Democrats. While Pelosi sided with the Republican leadership and voted for the bill, 53 Republicans joined with 55 Democrats in voting against it.

In addition to Pelosi, some of the other Democrats voting for the Republican leadership's bill, included Rep. John Conyers (D.-Mich.), Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schlultz (D.-Fla.), Rep. Xavier Becerra (D.-Calif.), Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D.-Ore.), and Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D.-Ill.).

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R.-Texas), Rep. Michele Bachmann (R.-Minn.), Rep. Trey Gowdy (R.-S.C.), Rep. John Fleming (R.-La.), Rep. Jim Jordan (R.-Ohio), and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R.-Calif.) were among the Republicans who voted against it.

The Syrian opposition, which is seeking to overthrow the secular authoritarian regime of Bashar al Assad, includes al Nusrah Front, the al Qaeda affiliate in Syria, and the Islamic State in Iraq and al Sham (ISIS), which used to be an al Qaeda affiliate and now controls parts of Iraq and Syria.

ISIS recently beheaded two American journalists and a British aid worker.

The training and arming of Syrian rebels is aimed at combating ISIS and Islamist terrorism, so ISIS and al Nusrah Front would not be among the Syrian rebels deliberately armed and trained by the new U.S. policy authorized by this bill.

The bill will fund the government through Dec. 11, when a "lame-duck" Congress, which will include members thrown out by the voters in November, will be able to return to Washington and vote for programs and governmental actions that they may not have wanted to vote for before the election. That new funding bill will also be passed before the newly elected members of Congress will be sworn in and have a say in what the government does.

Before the inclusion of the amendment to train and arm revolutionaries in Syria, the House Appropriations Committee had described the continuing resolution as a "clean" bill that did not include riders affecting current spending programs and policies. The committee affirmed to CNSNews.com last week that the bill does not prohibit funding for Planned Parenthood or for any element of Obamacare.

Twenty-four minutes before it voted on this final spending bill, the House voted on the amendment sponsored by House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R.-Calif.) that added to the bill the authorization for President Obama to arm and train the Syrian revolutionaries. That amendment passed by a vote of 273 to 156, with 3 members not voting.

Pelosi and Boehner joined together to vote for the amendment to arm and train Syrian revolutionaries, as did House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R.-Calif) and House Republican Whip Steve Scalise (R.-La.).

Among the 71 House Republicans standing in opposition to Pelosi and Boehner and the other Republican leaders on this amendment were Rep. Trey Gowdy (R.-S.C.), Rep. Jim Jordan (R.-Ohio), Rep. John Fleming (R.-La.), Rep. Louie Gohmert (R.-Tex.), Rep. John Duncan (R.-Tenn.), Rep. Thomas Massie (R.-Ky.), Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R.-Calif.) and Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R.-Wisc.)

�President Obama is choosing the wrong locals to support,� said Rep. Rohrabacher on the House floor. �With this vote, Congress approves the arming and training of the Free Syrian Army, which is riddled with radical Muslims. In short, we may again be arming insurgents who will end up our enemy. We are told that the Free Syrian Army has been vetted and that we can trust them. This is wishful thinking, not realistic planning.�

�The truth is that, if you look back under this president as commander in chief, we trained people in Libya,� said Rep. Gohmert. �We provided weapons to Libya that were then used against us in Benghazi. There are Americans dead because this administration felt compelled to go in and take out Qadhafi."

�Because Libya fell, so did Algeria and Tunisia," said Gohmert, "and it jump-started, as I have said before, the new Ottoman Empire, the new caliphate that the Muslim brothers and so many of the radicals are saying they are going for."

�One of the big problems, too, when we go in and train, as this President wants to do for the Syrians, they learn our tradecraft,� said Gohmert. �They use it against us, as they did at Benghazi.�

�I am opposed to the president's vague and inadequate strategy for dealing with ISIS; and, therefore, I rise in opposition to this amendment,� said Rep. Fleming.

�If we are going to degrade and destroy them [ISIS] it will not happen through an indecisive strategy that relies on unreliable and largely unknown help from Syrian rebels, whose own motivations and goals are mixed, and almost impossible to be certain of,� said Rep. Fleming.

Planned Parenthood--whose federal funding is permitted under the continuing resolution--said in its most recent annual report that it did 327,166 abortions in fiscal 2012. The same Planned Parenthood annual report said the group received $540.6 million in funding from local, state and federal governments in the year that ended on June 30, 2013. (Federal funding through Title X family planning grants cannot go to directly pay for abortions, but can pay for other Planned Parenthood activities.)

The CR also put no restriction on funding any provision of Obamacare or any regulation issued under Obamacare. That includes the preventive services regulation that requires individuals and families to purchase health insurance plans that cover contraceptives, sterilizations and abortion-inducing drugs even if doing so violates their religious faith.

�It is a critical piece of legislation, and my committee has crafted the bill in a responsible, restrained way that should draw wide support in the House and Senate," House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers (R.-Ky.) said last week when his committee released the bill--before the amendment was added to arm and train Syrian revolutionaries.

"This bill is free of controversial riders, maintains current levels, and does not seek to change existing federal policies," Rogers said.

Rogers voted for the amendment to arm and train Syrian rebels and then for the overall bill.




BTW Don Young voted yea

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll509.xml

Hang them all. Let God sort em out.

So....What you are saying is the government should be shut down? How has that worked out for the "R" in the past?

oh look it's a hypocrite ^

Hey moron, the Founders gave the House the power of the purse as a means to control an irresponsible Senate. Any real shutdown will not work cause of the limp wristed rhino republicans present. Shutting down the government could be a very good thing. Now go away and fire up your bowl of geef.

Bigdip...

I think this would be a great idea! Please write your congressman tonight and demand that the GOP stand for .....well....uh...something and shut down the government! I think this would be a wonderful thing for the GOP to do! Once more showing the country how hard they work for the folks who elected them!


After you ass clowns loose the White House again.....well you can blame the uninformed electorate! You are a bright group.


Palin/Cruz 2016! It will be a Drunken Brawl!

chit Waltie, no need to wait till 2016


let's do some drinking together and then I'll kick the ever loving chit out of you.

should be fun, whaddya say?

I believe I'm probably getting too gimpy to be much threat but it would sure be fun to witness.....mind if I join? (My elbow still works well enough for hoisting a pint. )

I'll buy tickets.

It is always good to see that there is some Palin in ya!

hell ya, I've no use for someone that won't fight.

reminds me of some of the prix that will talk chit behind a keyboard but wouldn't say squat if you met them FTF


aw hell you know what I'm talkin about, you probably got a mirror or two at your house

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

So your answer to all disagreements in your life is to fight? Have I insulted you by challenging your political beliefs? It cant be that I have swore at you or insulted your family, I don't do that so I am guessing that you are bit thin skinned?


Palin/Cruz 2016...It will be a Brawl!

well since you asked, the short answer is yes

you insult all Alaskans by your behavior on this site, particularly your hypocritical behavior/commentary about the political scene.

might come as a bit of surprise to you, but I do have friends that are liberals, but they are folks that operate with some degree of honor and dignity that I find lacking in your commentary about the GOP in particular.

I've no love for the GOP, but I deplore Democrats and their constant attempts to further infringe our 2nd amendment rights that have nada to do with hunting, and their continual class warfare towards those that have worked hard and self educated to achieve some modicum of financial success, only to be told "we're not paying our fair share, or we didn't build that"

we're each allowed to embrace our own philosophy of how to best govern ourselves, but not on what's right or wrong.

see Walter it ain't your politics I can't stand, it's YOU.

and how you behave here, in fairness you get piled on pretty well, but you bring most of that on yourself by your behavior.

like most liberals you're willing and eager to play the race card (which is BS btw) often here. Conveniently overlooking the support of these "rednecks" for men like Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain and even the kid ball player that gave the interview after his football game.

the biggest gripe I have with liberals like you is your hypocrisy.

you like to ignore those inconvenient truths.

funny I've not seen the corner of Geist and University with signs that say "Obama lied troops and US personnel died", actually it's not funny, it's disgusting that only when the other side had the WH that those folks show up. Hypocrisy of the highest order.

you fit right in with those folks due to your comments here on this site.

and yes you've been insulting to me or my family a bit on occasion, but it's fair game, your obvious disgust with me and my beliefs is no greater than the disgust I have for you and whomever you share your life with.

you've not been over the top with it, or I'd have already shown up on the left side of the road right before the Gulkana bridge.

your new sig line is P/C 2016, It will be a Brawl

all I'm saying is if a brawl interests you, well hell you don't have to wait, I'm your huckleberry.

the part that really sucks is I know folks that have rented gear from you and vouch that you're an ok, guy, but you act like such a prick around here that I'd be honored to have you try and poke a few of my teeth down my throat.

I mean how hard could it be??? You refer to us as clowns, for our principles. My best guesstimate is you'd not have a hard time at all just beating my azz like one of those clown blow up gizmos with sand at the bottom.

Your season should be pretty well done, and just think of the glory you'd receive over at HuffPo or DemU, if you took a few pix of the redneck conservative that you thoroughly thrashed.

if it sounds like something you're interested in, I'm at your service.

So your answer to all disagreements in your life is to fight?

I know many Alaskans who feel that the Far Right have insulted all of those of us who call this state home. I am guessing your fight card is going to be full as you must want to fight all who disagrees with you! Shall we start calling you "Cartman"? South Park Reference, ask you children.

You need to grow up out of your 3rd grade mentality! If I make you that angry you need to get a hobby and fast. I don't ever give you a second thought after we exchange pleasantries on the Fire!

Fixed this one of ya! You have a short memory!


Palin?Cruz 2016...It will be a Brawl!

I am diametrically opposed to Walt's political views.

But, c'mon you guys..

I'll buy beers until I puke on him, but offering to kick the [bleep] out of him? Really?

I have my standards...

Liberal/Demcraps, don't you just hate them. This NWak y sounds beyond redemption and arrogant to boot. As if there is ANY DemocRat to be proud of much less anything they stand for !?
He sounds like a loser and degenerate. F'n fool.

and so what's wrong with having a hobby of kickin the chit out of a hypocritical, POS liberal that likes to troll the campfire?


beats the hades outa building model airplanes

I swear you just can't please some folks

and as an aside I enjoyed all 4 years of 3rd grade

oh and you're still stuck on hypocrisy Walt, more troops have died in Afghanistan on Obama's watch than ever did on Bush's.

but oh my never a discouraging word.....yep you're a hypocrite

I pay good money to watch Doug Fredrick whip ol walts ass... We could call it rumble on the slana it would be epic.

Old man...

You are correct but lets think this through a bit....Who started both wars? Did you expect we would be able to exit stage right after we dumped GWB? We will be in both Sand Boxes for the near future regardless who is the Prez! We broke it and now we own it! My only hope is Obama or the next Prez is smart enough not to get involved with any more Sand Boxes! The real problem is the who region is a tinder box and as it goes so goes the entire hemisphere.

Ever think about anger management? I will bet you think the Palin Brawl was the normal way to exchange ideas! You be a silly man!

Not worth it. $hit splatters!

more of your hypocrisy at work but then everyone expects it of you.

was Obama, not me, that said he'd close Gitmo, twas Obama that said we'd have the most transparent gov't ever, well if that included "geez we're sorry but honest there was no wrongdoing at the IRS, we just happened to lose our emails, what a coinkydink!"

it's only transparent that thinking folks can see through this for the outright juvenile lie that it is.

think about anger management? Hell I took it, and it pizzed me off for what a waste of time it was!

and you can call me "silly man" on here, but to my face, nah not a chance, knew when I called you on your bs that you like to play here, you'd decline

just like for the 'fire boys to see you for what you are, both a hypocrite and a coward.

technology is a two edged sword, through this place I've met many great folks, here locally VerninAk comes to mind, a true gentleman, class act and good friend, he's only 100 miles away and I'd have likely never met him. Same for ironbender and bearhunter as far as locals go.

you're local and who knows maybe somedays our trails will cross

and then there's you, we both know, if we were around a regular campfire, you'd have shut your piehole a long time ago, or had it shut for you.

typical liberal behavior on your part, we see it play out time and time again, talk chit, denigrate, disaprage and then when called out on it...."who me? you must have a problem, you need anger management"

lmao yep if I'm a silly man in your eyes I must be doing something right. I'm entirely comfortable with a hypocrite and a coward having a low opinion of me.

I'd be happy to drink a beer with Todd Palin, and if you were on fire and I was feeling generous I might even let you have the byproduct from that beer.

you keep on keepin on Walt, you've showed us really good what an intellectual bad azz you are.

funny thing is, while you try and champion your liberal heroes, Obama, Begich, Biden etc., mainly by disparaging what the GOP has to offer while ignoring the grievances upon us by your party, all it does here, is show folks if you're for them, they must be bad for our nation.

you are what you are Walt, a hypocrite and a coward, and you wear them both so well.

have a great day it's beautiful out.

Says the one who works in Kotz about a KOOK (Kicked Out Of Kotzebue) Hmmm? I wonder who had a hand in that? (How could one be too liberal for Kotz? - we know it ain't that! )

Would you elaborate?