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Gallop poll says some of us think up to 51%. Washington Post says much less. Weigh in guys while I sit back and watch.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Really? 32 cents of every tax dollar is spent on the military and veterans benefits. You want to get rid of that?

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Every bit that doesn't go the the Department of Defense, and at least half that does.


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan
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All of it.


Really? 32 cents of every tax dollar is spent on the military and veterans benefits. You want to get rid of that?

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Excise taxes could and should cover that segment, as appropriate.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I don't know actual numbers. But I'll say a lot. How many people work in the federal government that can't be fired? I'm not saying X needs to be fired, but I kind of like having that option or at least that threat.

Just off the top of my head on that chart looks like we're getting screwed on veterans benefits and education just as a start.

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KyWindageII: All of it - minus the portion of my federal tax that goes to the Defense Department (and tragically some of that is wasted as well!)!
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Id say around 50% is wasted. Thats not counting the interest on the debt because defaulting on it would suck, but in a better run country we wouldn't be paying interest because we wouldn't have any substantial debt.


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
KyWindageII: All of it - minus the portion of my federal tax that goes to the Defense Department (and tragically some of that is wasted as well!)!
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For once, I gotta agree with VG�.as long as the pentagon is buying $4000 hammers and $6000 toilet seats�I think a goodly portion of the defense end is being wasted.


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Note that the poll covers state and local taxes as well. In Kentucky I suspect there is more abuse of tax dollars at those levels than anyone would suspect. Yet we reelect the same folks over and over.

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One has only to walk around Capitol Hill here to see how much is getting wasted�or even something as simple as calling a state office.
Count how many state employees ( I refuse to call them workers..) are on duty at their desks�.


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The federal government has only 3 duties:
1. protect my borders (fail)
2. deliver my mail (fail)
3. stay out of my life (BIG TIME FAIL)

Any expenditures beyond those are wasted.


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The bunch that illegitimately "sort" their way into some sort of disability across the board must be 20%, at least...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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KyWindageII: All of it - minus the portion of my federal tax that goes to the Defense Department (and tragically some of that is wasted as well!)!
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For once, I gotta agree with VG�.as long as the pentagon is buying $4000 hammers and $6000 toilet seats�I think a goodly portion of the defense end is being wasted.


About right but don't exclude veterans' benefits.

There are a few other necessities, but it is fair to say there is a lot of waste throughout. Not the least in DC itself.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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KyWindageII: All of it - minus the portion of my federal tax that goes to the Defense Department (and tragically some of that is wasted as well!)!
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For once, I gotta agree with VG�.as long as the pentagon is buying $4000 hammers and $6000 toilet seats�I think a goodly portion of the defense end is being wasted.


The DOD wastes huge amounts of money, I saw it all the time during my 10 years in the marine corps and that was before the current push for gays in the military. I can't imagine how much productivity is now being wasted from the endless diversity & tolerance classes that they're forced to sit through. Integrating women cost billions in lost productivity & wasted time, the cost for gays must be astronomical.

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When government and big government lovers are choosing what constitutes waste, we'll never get an accurate picture.


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I would put it somewhere around 80% of discretionary funding. I mean, look at NASA. Most of us here would agree that their mission is noble, but I will bet a private company accomplish everything they could accomplish in 20% of the time, for 10% of the cost, with greater reliability. And SpaceX has done better than that....

In this neck of the woods, the government does "nuclear energy research". These are the engineers that loudly proclaimed that [bleep] could not possibly happen. OOPS. And what has 1,000 plus engineering types produced for the country in the last 30 years? Not a single lousy thing.

Administering government "benefits"? yeah, that's been a great succes...

edited to add: Fu-ko-shima got bleeped? Really?


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