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Jesus, Mary and Joseph on a piggy powered pogo stick!

How the f--k do you people get from one day to the next without your head exploding from all the stupid??? The only thing I can figure is that leaking it out in posts like these relieves the pressure.

Ebola is extremely unlikely to evolve into something more deadly. How the f--k is it going to get more deadly??? it already kills between 50 and 90 percent of those infected depending on strain and locale. And, at that it kills them in about ten days, less when untreated, and only a little more with treatment.

Ebola has a tropical host species. That species is not humans in that the disease dies out in humans for years at a time. That has absolutely no bearing on whether the disease can or will do well outside the tropics. Ebola is spread by person to person contact and contaminated equipment/facilities with which people come in contact. It appears to have a limited period of viability on surfaces of days, not weeks. Tincture of time has in all prior outbreaks seemingly rendered the facilities/equipment non-infectious. Provide those conditions elsewhere and you can only expect similar results.

As far as Ebola "going airborne"...This is stupid deluxe! It has to change it's entire process. Ebola is a wet disease. Ebola is not a disease of the respiratory system. Ebola is a septicemia like process, it is blood borne and breaks down the smallest of vessels, vessels feeding the mucosa, vessels lining the gut, vessels around the eyes. Ebola does not produce pustules that dry up and release dry particles like pox viruses. The pathology of Ebola is a complex interaction between the cells the virus infects which once infected are retasked to producing massive quantities of virus particles, and your immune system trying to kill off those particles. The virus particles themselves ARE NOT direct actors. For Ebola to change that much to "go airborne", it would become a wholly new disease. Most viruses, and there are millions of types, produce minor or no disease. Simply put, what kills people infected with Ebola is their immune system waging chemical warfare on a massive scale. The byproducts of that war do you in.

The profound ignorance that suggests f--k 'em, let 'em all die over there is truly mind boggling. There is no way to isolate any portion of the world today. At least not in the real sense of anything larger than a very small village. The thought of trying to enforce a quarantine of an area the size of the north central United States is laughable. Would that we had enough people in uniform to establish a blockade on land, in the air, on the sea, we would be putting millions of armed personnel into much more dangerous (disease wise) situations than sending in a limited number to set up field hospitals as proposed. Anyone who can't figure that one out probably needs to take their shoes off to count past ten. And... the little consequence of exposing so many people to the disease would just create a whole new vector. Trying to stop it at our borders will cost an ungodly amount of money, and given that fact that we haven't managed to stop any disease at our borders doesn't even give us a working model to apply to this disease. The last disease we tried to stop at our borders was HIV, another "tropical" disease. Tell me how well that worked out.

Lastly, the though of someone like TRH teaching children anything with the absurdly illogical thought processes he exhibits here is truly stunning. How the f--k can a person provide answers when he clearly cannot grasp the question(s) is one thing. But to go off like he has here with no basis, no comprehension of what he's talking about, and no logical connection between what he says and reality... This people is the land of too stupid to live in the most literal sense of the word, and TRH is king.

Relax Francis.

I think you know what you're talking about. And I agree with your assessment of the disease.

Could have been a tad nicer about it. Just sayin

will warn yah though it aint the book to read shortly before traveling overseas.....took all the fun of even seeing the flying foxes in the Adelaide zoo, let alone just traveling through airports in Asia show up in Australia,land of deadly critters and im scared chitless of an inch long ant and a phuggin bat

It seems to thrive best in the tropics, so likely it will not do particularly well in the United States, but you never know. No reason to tempt fate by intentionally bringing it in, that's for damned sure.

Really?? Look at any map recording the history of Ebola outbreaks of any demographic significance. There are clear north and south borders suggested, paralleling specific latitudinal lines, centering in the middle tropics of the African continent, and this over many decades. I'd classify that as constituting at least some basis for concluding that its nature it that of a tropical disease.

You probably would classify it that way because you just haven't got the intellectual wherewithal to understand these are both diseases of humans, and that all humans are susceptible and they are not confined anywhere on the planet. You cannot have it both ways, either the disease presents a danger here or it does not.