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Well after 30 years and 10,000+ rounds down stream my 'factory" MKX barrel can't get me MOA any longer. Over the years I have increased the OAL to get the bullet closer to the receding lands. It is now a single shot. Pervious loads that have worked a a number of new attempts and 1.25-1.5MOA is the best I can do.
So I'm in the market for a new barrel. Since I do at time use this as a carry rifle I don't want to go with a heavy varmint or bull.
CM because I don't use it alone for days long PD trips. So I was thinking something in a simply heavy sporter. Maybe light target. It will remain a 22-250 and I won't be using heavy bullets so don't need a super fast twist.
Thoughts and experience?
Just my 2 cents.
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I'd think something around a #4 contour. I'd look at Douglas, and Hart. Lilja if money was no object.
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Harrt doesn't make a CM�Im not sure about Lilja. My only two non-factory barrels are Hart and Benchmark. Happy with them both, but both are stainless. I have found factory take-off barrels to be just as good, accuracy wise, and a helluva lot cheaper if you don't have a snazzy twist or anything 'custom' in mind.
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I'm not married to a CM just that the action is bluing and I'm not big on a mismatch.
I've used Douglas for years. Just wondered what the current buyers felt were good. Since the factory barrel made it 30+ years I think it is due for something new. A few $$ extra every 30 years isn't going to break me.
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Just my 2 cents.
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I haven't heard anything bad about douglas.
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if ya go with a Douglas, check out IT&D Gunsmithing in Ohio...
they have Douglas barrels in stock and mega reasonable prices with fairly quick turnaround....
I have two rifles with rebarreled 22.250 barrels on them...
I like them to be mobile, but wanted a little more than just a sporter barrel... so I went with a heavy magnum contour... same size as a 458 would be chambered in...on both..
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I've got a Lilja on my 243 and Benchmark barrels on my 204 Ruger and 300 WSM. All three are very accurate and I've been very happy with them. My gunsmith, Kevin Weaver, seems to lean towards the Benchmark barrels as of late.
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Seafire, Yep I've used IT&D for a number of barrel. Hard to beat their prices and service.
Never heard of Benchmark. Might need to check up on them
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LOL if I start looking at Brux I'll have to get into the cut vs button debate.
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I'd go stainless for sure, CM tube offers no advantages. If you go CM you still have to get the whole thing blued if you're worried about everything matching up. Just get the whole thing cerakoted if it concerns you. If it don't, then just blast the barrel and call it good or hit it with a rattle can.
No reason to ever pick a CM barrel
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340, We have used several different barrels on out .22's.. My pal is a big fan of Shilen.. I use mostly Douglas in a #5 or 5A. But I think if I were doing it today, I would opt for a #4.. Unless I wanted a bull, which you don't.. My 22-250AI is my only Packnor, and it is a real shooter..
I have several Lilja's, but not in .22... If I were doing this again, I would probably buy a high end barrel like Hart etc. just because I never owned one..
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Well after 30 years and 10,000+ rounds down stream my 'factory" MKX barrel can't get me MOA any longer. Over the years I have increased the OAL to get the bullet closer to the receding lands. It is now a single shot. Pervious loads that have worked a a number of new attempts and 1.25-1.5MOA is the best I can do.
So I'm in the market for a new barrel. Since I do at time use this as a carry rifle I don't want to go with a heavy varmint or bull.
CM because I don't use it alone for days long PD trips. So I was thinking something in a simply heavy sporter. Maybe light target. It will remain a 22-250 and I won't be using heavy bullets so don't need a super fast twist.
Thoughts and experience? #3 Douglas Stainless Premium. Finished @ 22" 1" shank. 1-8" twist. Krylon of your choice. Travis
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I prefer stainless barrels too, and the cerakote/dura-coat/Krylon idea is not a bad one. Ive duracoated two stainless barrels matte black and have been completely happy with them
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""#3 Douglas Stainless Premium. Finished @ 22" 1" shank. 1-8" twist. Krylon of your choice.""
Travis I think you hit it. I've never had a Douglas I didn't like. Why change now.
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Get 'er done.
And please do try the heavies. You only live once and you'll be glad you did.
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Travis I run a lot of heavy stuff through my AR15 with great results. Since the old 22-250 barrel was so slow I started having trouble over 55gr. Looking at my supplies I seem to have 2 for 1 heavy vs light so makes since to be able to shoot both.
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My 1-8 bug holes the 40gr Ballistic Tips and just about everything in between.
Just stay away from the thin jacketed stuff, which I'm sure you knew already.
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I have seen the same results as Travis with my 1-8's.....
It doesn't cost any more to have a barrel twisted 1-8 than 1-14 and so much more versatile....
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If you got 10,000 rds. out of a .22-250 barrel, I'd say another one just like it. E
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