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Well, a 71" bear is pretty nice. I'm going to have a taxidermist put the antlers on the head of my brown bear mount to save space. You know, every last post of yours may be construed as getting your last word in.....just saying. 
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Well, a 71" bear is pretty nice. I'm going to have a taxidermist put the antlers on the head of my brown bear mount to save space. That is the best idea I've heard in ages! You could call it a Moozzley Bear!
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P Well, a 71" bear is pretty nice. I'm going to have a taxidermist put the antlers on the head of my brown bear mount to save space. You know, every last post of yours may be construed as getting your last word in.....just saying. Hah! I struck again!
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Well, a 71" bear is pretty nice. I'm going to have a taxidermist put the antlers on the head of my brown bear mount to save space. That is the best idea I've heard in ages! You could call it a Moozzley Bear! Or a "Boose"?
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Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I was backpacking with my ten-yr-old son in Colorado and then shooting a 71" bull in AK. ![[Linked Image]](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2013/Aug2013-018-1.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2014%20A%20Hunt/P9150043.jpg) [/quote] Friend Marinehawk, first I would like to say, thanks for taking your son afield. This show volumes to me what kind of a father you are. Second, look how you were blessed with that great moose. Thanks for the pictures and your input about your time.
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MarineHawk
I don't care if you shoot your moose with a 600 Nitro Express, or a 22 short. Taking your son with you makes me think you are the real deal. Friend Marinehawk, first I would like to say, thanks for taking your son afield. This show volumes to me what kind of a father you are.
Second, look how you were blessed with that great moose.
Thanks for the pictures and your input about your time. Thanks guys! You are too kind. I assume most people do the same with their sons. To clarify, I took my son on a separate backpacking trip from the AK hunt. But I did take him black bear and deer hunting today on the one youth-only (early) hunting day here in Virginia on public land. FWIW, he can shoot under 3" groups at 200 yds with his .243 (from a bench): http://vid75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2014/IMG_0752.mp4 (notice how at a recent range session he goes for the safety automatically after the shot). We saw a lot of bear scat today but no live bear, and the deer aren�t rutting yet, there were a lot of hunters, and the people nearby who succeeded on a bear had hounds (which we don�t have). BUT, we stayed up on a mountain until sundown (his insistence), had a great time, and made each other laugh a lot with stories during the down times. He is really patient and a great little hunting partner. I can�t wait to get him a better opportunity. ![[Linked Image]](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2014-09%20Ryan%20Hunt/P9270082.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2014-09%20Ryan%20Hunt/P9270086.jpg) I am tentatively planning to take him caribou hunting in northern Alaska in a couple of years when he is 12. His little brother will be jealous, but his time will come: ![[Linked Image]](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/MarineHawk/2013/Aug2013-060.jpg) He proudly built the cairn after climbing that mountain with us. FWIW, they're better kids than I am a father, so they make it easy (probably got it from mom).
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A hunting family is the tightest circle there is. Well done.
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A hunting family is the tightest circle there is. Well done.
John So true John. ________________ MH your photos of your son while hunting, reminds me of my son and I when he was your son's age. All I can tell you is, enjoy your time with your children. The time goes by so fast, my son is now 34. Take care.
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Making the kid go out with a Browning hat and a rifle with a bipod? That's child abuse! 
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Nice bull! That will make book. It is a very nice bull, but will not come close to making book. Not suggesting there is anything wrong with the moose, but the right side has no point up near the top to match the main single up there so the palm length will be taken from way down at the second point. Second, the palm width is not going to be particularly wide, the long points add absolutely nothing on moose. Width was the ONLY measure used in the very early days of B&C and it has been given far more credit than it deserves as a result. Again, absolutely no disrespect toward the moose, but it is no Booner. No disrespect taken Sitka. Thanks for the info. I know very little about the B&C requirements, and you seem to know a lot about them; so I assume you're correct. I'll have it scored just to see what it is, but it's not going to make me sad if it's just a big moose-head on my wall, invoking good memories and maybe inspiring my kids to hunt. Again, it's not the most important thing to me, but my guide visited the moose yesterday with a tape measure, and here are the comments he sent me: "The minimum score for a AK-Yukon Moose to qualify for the All-Time B&C record book is 224. After deductions, your bull net scored 231, qualifying by 7 points. The gross score was 235. The only deductions were�1 point for the left palm length being one inch shorter than the right palm length�.and a three point deduction between the 14 pts on the right side vs the 17 pts on the left side. After the 60 day drying period, it will still very easily qualify. While an official B&C scoring representative may measure slight differences on some measurements, the bull will certainly have an official score greater than 224. Great, wonderful bull moose." It's always possible that he's wrong, but he's never showed any such dishonesty or incompetence in the past. I'll have it officially scored in November.
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Making the kid go out with a Browning hat and a rifle with a bipod? That's child abuse! I've already turned myself in to child protective services.
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Nice bull! That will make book. It is a very nice bull, but will not come close to making book. Not suggesting there is anything wrong with the moose, but the right side has no point up near the top to match the main single up there so the palm length will be taken from way down at the second point. Second, the palm width is not going to be particularly wide, the long points add absolutely nothing on moose. Width was the ONLY measure used in the very early days of B&C and it has been given far more credit than it deserves as a result. Again, absolutely no disrespect toward the moose, but it is no Booner. No disrespect taken Sitka. Thanks for the info. I know very little about the B&C requirements, and you seem to know a lot about them; so I assume you're correct. I'll have it scored just to see what it is, but it's not going to make me sad if it's just a big moose-head on my wall, invoking good memories and maybe inspiring my kids to hunt. Again, it's not the most important thing to me, but my guide visited the moose yesterday with a tape measure, and here are the comments he sent me: "The minimum score for a AK-Yukon Moose to qualify for the All-Time B&C record book is 224. After deductions, your bull net scored 231, qualifying by 7 points. The gross score was 235. The only deductions were�1 point for the left palm length being one inch shorter than the right palm length�.and a three point deduction between the 14 pts on the right side vs the 17 pts on the left side. After the 60 day drying period, it will still very easily qualify. While an official B&C scoring representative may measure slight differences on some measurements, the bull will certainly have an official score greater than 224. Great, wonderful bull moose." It's always possible that he's wrong, but he's never showed any such dishonesty or incompetence in the past. I'll have it officially scored in November. Outstanding! I personally do not see it, but a guy with the tape in hand always has the upper hand!  You guys must be a bit taller than average is my only chance at an excuse! Again, congratulations!
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Nice post Art. Was that so hard?
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Outstanding! I personally do not see it, but a guy with the tape in hand always has the upper hand! You guys must be a bit taller than average is my only chance at an excuse! Again, congratulations! Thanks Sitka. Many genuine thanks for the kind words. I'll get the official numbers on a couple of months, but it looks like there is at least enough margin for error on our side. We'll see. This is what he measured: Greatest Spread: 71� Number of Abnormal Points: 0 Number of Normal Points Right Antler: 14 Number of Normal Points Left Antler: 17 Width of Right Palm: 16-1/2� Width of Left Palm: 16-1/2� Length of Right Palm: 43� Length of Left Palm: 42� Smallest Circumference of Right Antler: 7 6/8� Smallest Circumference of Left Antler: 7 6/8�
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Heckuva nice moose! Congrats, glad I got to see him regardless of what he scores.
PB, my last two moose died via 120 gr. tsx outa 7mm-08
and no they weren't 70 inchers.
but moose die when hit in the right spot with a good bullet, been my experience anyway. Total bullschit overkill!!! Riley killed his big bull last year with an 80gr TTSX. If you had a single hair on your azz you would move down a third in bullet weight! Chicken! lm(hairless)ao! just saw this gonna have to stay with the 120 grainer's Art, after this last wax job (yes I read the thread about shaving the nether regions ) side's Riley's a better man than me, hear tell he had a better sire. love readin of that kid's exploits but damn if he wasn't a cute dinosaur
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Kodiak?.......yeah....Ill concur with a .338 mag. A .300 mag has
put down a lot too, but most will opt for more bullet weight.
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Kodiak?.......yeah....Ill concur with a .338 mag. A .300 mag has
put down a lot too, but most will opt for more bullet weight. Where do you get off steering this back on topic?
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A highly educational thread for this novice, thank you gents. That was probably worth $34.99 off Amazon.
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