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I got one of these:

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-455-american-suppressor-ready-22-lr-16-bbl-5-rd-mag-black-polymer/

Waiting on the can before I shoot it because it's going to have the can attached all the time.

I'm ordering a 25MOA extended rail from DIP. What else do I need? Do these triggers usually require an adjustable sear or spring kit? Bed it? Float it? Wait and see?

I don't know much about CZ's.


Travis

Flave some people don't like em but on mine and all my brothers 452's the yo Dave trigger kits have made a tremendous improvement. Well worth the few bucks..

Yo Dave? I'll check it out.




Travis

After you have shot your CZ for a while you will throw rocks at all your other .22's.

Isn't that the truth! Spent the morning testing various ammo in mine, and it's accurate as heck, and not at all fussy about what I feed it.

I have .22s with a lot more $$ and work invested, that don't shoot as well as my 452 lefty.

Paul

Flave hold tight I'll pm you in a few...

pm sent

I replied to each with a Brett Favre type message. You'll love it.



Travis

Go over to www.rimfirecentral.com to the CZ forum and read through the stickies at the top. They give you several optional upgrades and trigger options.

I had a Timney on my 455 and I will say it was beyond nice.

Yo flave trigger kit? .......never heard of it!

More better than the rest?

I love a Timney.



Travis

You might give the Yo-Dave a try first. It made the trigger in my 452 just as nice as the one in my Annie 1416 and only cost $20. It can easily be changed back or removed if you decide to do something else afterward.

Thanks Clark.



Travis

This.

Also, DO NOT try to clean your CZ with a .22 rod, the bore is too tight. You need a .17 or .20 rod, one-piece such as a Dewey, nothing else will do the job PROPERLY.

York,

Funny you mention that. I usually use my .17 Dewey and jag on all my 22LR's. All I have done with this CZ is degrease it inside and out.

Any of you guys try the Gemtech sub sonic stuff by the way?



Travis

I can't comment as this was my only CZ and it came with that trigger already installed. but it sure is as nice of a trigger I have used. I think it was set right near 1lb

I believe it has more to do with the rod dragging on the CZ ejectors than the bores actually being too tight, although the "tight bore" story is all over the net.

This, plus the fact that manufacturers tend to make jags too large in diameter, especially in the smaller calibers. As others have noted, .20 cleaning accessories are just about ideal for a .22 rimfire bore. Brushes have to fit the bore, so I made my own adapter so that I can use a .22 nylon bore brush on my .20 rod, but you can buy adapters from outfits like Brownell's.

Paul

It has probably seen its last bore punching anyway, so no worries.




Travis

Travis
Do you belong to the less cleaning is better in 22 LR club?

I've been a member for many years.

I have to get one of those!

But I've gotten too much here lately so it'll have to wait a little longer. A SS scope mounted on a DIP rail launching sub sonic bullets through my Gemtech can out to unspeakable distances will boggle a few minds.

I gave up cleaning everything.

Except my dong. That's every Wednesday.



Travis

Which sub-sonics are you using?



Travis

Travis buy an aluminum mag well off DIP. The OEM is a brittle plastic POS. It is a must have IMO.

I was wondering if anybody would mention that...

Mags ok? Or should I get some metal ones?




Travis

The plastic 10 round ones feed just as flawlessly as the steel 5 shot jobs. Personally I prefer the 5 shot ones because I don't like the 10 shot pissers extending outwardly.

Buy a [bleep] ton of CCI Standard Velocity ammo and laugh. Wolf match is awesome but expensive. Those CCI SV are the real deal at a fraction of the price.

If you see any, let me know!



Travis

I have a few brands from Eley to Remington junk. Match ammo is almost always sub sonic, the Wolf is pretty good. Best cheap sub sonic I have is Winchester.

I did a experiment at the range last weekend using all bulk HV ammo out of my 453. Winchester, remington and federal HV HP ammo, shot off a lead sled, 10-5 shot groups @ 50 yards. Each change of ammo brand was shot 30 times before the groups were printed. Result? Winchester was the winner by a LARGE margin, then remington, and a distant 3rd was the federal. No duds with anything other than the Remington.

I found out the hard way, ruined a brand new Dewey .22 rod, ran it into my 452 and darn near didn't get it out. Stripped rod coating the length of the rod and rifling marks all the way. Ejector is not in play when using the proper rod guide, which I did.

When I want to show off at the range when there is a Cooper, Anny, or Kimber I'll break out the wolf match. When they ask what Im shooting I'll be sure to let them know it's a $400 CZ(be it glass bedded). A few honest guys have admitted they were ashamed they paid what they did.

When I want to show off at the range I stunt shoot bleeped Fire words....





Vinny

That's impressive.

But if it was unsuppressed, it doesn't count.



Travis

GFY.
Can snob.

We're an elite group.

When people ask how to go about getting one, I just reply "You can't afford it anyway."



Travis

PS- I get my ass kicked. A lot.

This is Idaho.
I just hit the back room of the pawn shop............and steal it.
I'm poor..........and unregistered.







P.S. C�ck

I prefer the metal ones, but the plastic 5-shot I had worked okay. Get yourself a single-shot adapter too.

My 453 likes RWS SS HPs, which can be found on the WWW pretty regularly. Also Aguila Match Extras, but not the Aguila SS HPs, for some reason.

Drop in a Timney, thats what I put in my 455 tacticool. Ordered it straight from Timney set at 2lbs which is the lightest they would set it. Had barrel threaded for my Thunderbeast 22L-1.

What is the single shot adapter for?

I was wondering about that RWS stuff. Thanks.


Travis

I've got two 455's and they both shoot great with wolf MT, crap with CCI SV.

The single shot adapter is basically just a solid, blank magazine that allows you to shoot single shot easier. I stole my sons from his youth scout and got him a 5-shot.

I put the yo dave trigger kit, aluminum mag well, the extended release, and the bottom metal in my American. That trigger kit is the chit for very cheap, I can't imagine needing anything more. My plastic mag well never broke but the magazine never really felt like it snapped in. I always ended up checking and double checking that the mag was in all the way. Now with the aluminum well and extended release the mag snaps in very nicely. There is no doubt now when it locks in. The factory bottom metal seems a little cheap looking though it works just fine. The DIP bottom finishes it off nicely.

The switch barrel feature actually works very well. I just keep an index card with the scope adjustments for each caliber; 22LR, 22mag, 17 HMR. POI has never been an issue for me.

I shot my 455 17 HMR today to confirm it's zero and it was right on at 100 yds!

The two shot group was 3/8" and a little to the right away from the gusty wind.

I changed the trigger spring in mine and it's light and crisp.

I got it for the 17 HMR and never put the 22 barrel on.

Thanks. I'll grab the mag well too.

Pass on the single shot stuff. I need repeat capability.



Travis

You're full of schit.



Travis

Travis
You may have seen these Lilja barrels but if not I'll post a link. I don't own a 455, mine are 452's and 453's, but these barrels have been getting very good reviews at rimfirecentral. I've heard of fifty yard five shot .2's being common in 22 LR with good ammo. Not real sure on the other calibers since I'm a 22 shooter mostly.

Be advised, a match chamber will likely not extract an unfired round.
http://www.riflebarrels.com/products/cz_455.htm

Thanks Clark. But I can't do the match chamber/barrel thing. I like to use Stingers and any other ammo I can steal from friends.



Travis

I love me some Stingers! They don't always shoot the best, but they sure kill stuff.
They also give great velocity and expansion from handguns. I won't tell you what I paid for the last two boxes though.

The SS adapter is really nice on the bench when shooting those greasy subsonic and match rounds.

HA! 99 only shoots 2 with the hmr as well ... a 50 rd box of shells will last for YEARS

Those high Speed Aguilas kill stuff pretty dead as well.



Travis

That clown shoe trying to give advice on anything is fuggin' funny.

I'm also curious how he knew what I was asking about since I've gotten all his weird ass PM's trying to explain he doesn't read my posts.


Travis

So we got trigger mod, aluminum mag housing, 25 MOA extended rail, and...

That's it right?



Travis

Don't forget and itchy trigger finger.

I have can-envy here in the great communist state of IL.
Accurate and quiet just can't be beat.

My brother is driving from IL next summer so he can participate in the genocide of the rockchuck family that ruined my sleep.

You should tag along.



Travis

Where in IL? And don't tempt me!

First time in 4 years that I didn't make it out West to splatter PDs all over the prairie. Felt like a missed a birthday or forgot Christmas.

I would recommend the extended release while you are going to be in there anyway.

http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=735026&CAT=3600

How much more do they "extend?"

I don't want it getting bumped when I swing out the driver's side window.



Travis

Sycamore.



Travis

Good point. You can see the pics at DIP. Doesn't extend past the 5-shot mag. It seems like just long enough to be "right". Plus they machined it to fit the aluminum mag well perfect.

Yes. That does look serviceable. I'll add it to the cart.




Travis

Ace hardware 144 spring

I have a question I bought a CZ 455 combo model 17 hmr/22 the spacer block was missing and cross pin to change magazines so I got online and purchased a threaded 22 barrel with clip and was suppose to have the spacer block and cross pin but was missing in the new kit also is the new 22 barrel a drop in conversion or does it need to be fitted ? I have a couple Cz's in 17 mach 2 but this 455 is a newby for me .Any info would be helpful.

Call CZ and complain.

When I bought a 455 and later a .22 LR conversion, the instructions said the headspace had to be checked and the barrel adjusted if necessary. I was ticked, but when I contacted CZ USA, they said not to worry, it would be fine. By the time they got back to me, I had already shot it.

I did have some feeding issues with the LR, which could probably have been fixed by shifting the mag well around a bit, but by that time I decided the switch-barrel concept was over-rated. I sold it and bought a 453 in LR.

Thanks for the info I think I can trade this one for a 453 mach 2 but don't know if I need a third one as I have 2 now that are tackdrivers.

The Mach 2 is very cool if you can find ammo.

455 barrel change out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-eHWcvT8NA

I'm good to go on the Mach 2 ammo I was a ammo horder before ammo hordering was cool.

Travis...your can in yet???

CZs are scary accurate for the price.

My all time favorite .22 rifle, and I've owned close to a 100, is the 452 American with the short 17" threaded barrel. It's accurate even with bulk ammo and just "handy" with the short barrel.



50 yard groups...the bottom right was 100 and the one pull was my fault....



Those were with Winchester Super-X. Now shooting CCI Green Tag and it is so quiet with the TS AXIOM one can shoot it indoors without hearing protection...

Bob

I don't think mine will be ready until about March.



Travis

Here's the follow up on the missing block and cross pin on the 455 combo called CZ said they would drop one in the mail excellent customer service.Also picked up a straggler box of 17 mach 2 ammo today.

Love my 455. Dropped a DIP sear and spring in it. It's awesome.

It's my squirrel gun. Shoot Eley SS's for hunting. Nasty little accurate round. $12 though. I shoot a lot of HV/SV at the range and usually prints 1" low compared to the SS.

Love my 455. Shoot just as good as slg's cooper. Definitely a yo Dave kit, metal mag well, and extended mag release. Mine feeds great with plastic and metal mags. The best ammo through it has been Norma tac, with cci sv, and eley subsonic hollow points very close 2nd place tie. The switch barrel works great, but my 17hmr barrel is a little picky. Hates vmax, but loves tnt and gamepoint. The 17 also doesn't feed as great as 22lr but feeds good enough. Very accurate gun. The only complaint is bolt throw is way to high and buying rings can be a ordeal at times due to this. I am going to have mine machined and cerakote to solve the problem.

Ah, yes CZ's .
Their motto should be " The Best Quality the Czechs can Muster"
I have a few of these....
Love to buy a new rifle and rebuild it.
Like after market Chevy parts.
I can't find all my rimfires..........

Mine shot just fine factory, the other stuff just makes a really good rimfire even better. for the price it's very hard to compete with or beat a cz rimfire.

I have owned a pile of CZ 452/455's and everyone functioned flawlessly, (something i cant say about some much higher priced bolt action rimfires I've owned in the past) Many guy's will profess to the CZ's "tack driving" accuracy well that it is a matter of what your definition of "tack driving" accuracy is, the dozen or so CZ rimfires I have owned were all acceptably accurate but none were My definintion of "tack drivers"........For the money there is no better value in a bolt action rimfire rifle and that is pretty high praise.........Hb

This Euro-trash may change my view on Euro-trash....

Can is ready so I decided I should get my B-day gift ready as well.

DIP parts added along with a 6X42 and M1's. Some bulk packed Winchester's and I was moving forward.



100yd zero looked good, and things only got better from there....



Fuggin' thing is ridiculous and flipping soup cans @ 200yds was easy.



Travis

Have a bunch of good .22's, but the CZ is my favorite of all.. Never thought anything would eke out my old Marlin 39A..

I can't wait to get the can on it.

I tried some Remington Thunderschits and they had the exact same POI and grouped the same as well.

Gotta get out and kill something with it this weekend.



Travis

I did the Yo Dave to a Scout and an American. The Scout loved RWS 50 way over anything else. I managed a 3/8" ten shot group with a 4x Leupold in bags at 50 yards. I almost duplicated it to make sure it wasn't a fluke. A friend shot it and then told me never to touch it again. I didn't listen and between the non-free floated barrel and retorquing the action screws my groups opened some but I only shot it a few times and mostly at 100. The American I floated and tried to use the Yo Dave but no were near as nice as the Scout trigger came out for some reason. It also didn't group anywhere near as good as the Scout even though the stock fits me and I tired all the good ammo and some of the bad. I lucked into some good stuff because a friend got into 22's from pistol only and started buying match ammo because he couldn't find regular stuff. He gave me a bunch of different brands to try. If I could get a full size 22 to shoot and have a trigger like the Scout I would pay alot more. I have even been thinking of getting the kids another Scout and putting this one in a full size stock. It is that nice of a shooter but the stock is ugglyy. Hope the 455 treats you as good as my Scout has treated us.

Absolute crap picture but you get the idea


And here is my re-attempt.


Will it do it all the time no but it does show capability even if I am not all that capable. To be honest I thought I must have been missing for the first few but with the little 4x scope it was hard to tell. In the second group I didn;t have as good a point of aim so I just kept aiming for the hole but again at 4x not alot if magnification so some of the vertical could have been me aiming for the " dark spot "

And I am smart enough to never ever sell this one even though I sell everything else. I may not even give it to the kids:)

If you really like it, you won't even LEAVE it to 'em.

I sold mine (a 453) today. I'm really liking the new Ruger.

deflave that is some beautiful scenery there.

Glad the CZ is working out well for you. For the money I think they are one of the best things going.

Nice shooting gremcat.



Travis

gremcat;

I bought a CZ Scout for myself! Then added a 1" pad so that it would fit me better.
I also installed the Yo Dave trigger kit, and a Leupold 4x rimfire scope.

This is one great shooting little gun!

Virgil B.

Well did you pick up the can yet!!!

The can is still somewhere between lost, and found.

Bloodied this weekend. She's a shooter.

The CZ is dominating the killing fields. And we haven't even hit gopher season yet.

Have only one CZ .22, but it is certainly my favorite.. It even edges out my old 39a.. And the CZ .22 mag. is one of the most accurate I have ever owned..

Travis, Great smile when you are with those children!!!! They are some lucky kids..

They sure are... grin.




Travis

Can hath arrived.

I'll see which sub-sonics group the best once gopher season closes:

Good video Travis.....glad that can finally showed up for you.