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and it lands in texas; what a coincidence. I don't think it's in Texas. I heard it's in Dallas.
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Relax folks, the CDC says there is no chance of Ebola spreading to the US.
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Well fugg, we import everything else, why not a virus or three, hey?
Gotta ask a simple question here. How easy would it have been maybe a month or three back to block travel between the U.S. and Africa or regions therein until this chitt settles out?
Fed right the fug up with the Federal Government. Only travel from the infected region needed to be block. Aid, researchers, and would be do-gooders could have still be allowed to travel to the Ebola region. Those going in would just have had to go for the duration. Yeah, right! And do tell how we prevent someone who wants to come here because we appear to have better medical treatment available and they decide to come by way of Zaire, Namibia, Mozambique and South Africa? We cannot manage a secure border across any single state in the southwest. How do you propose we manage to lock down a much, much longer boundary, most of which is jungle and please tell us while you're at it just how many troops you'll need to do this and how we keep them on duty and where all those hazmat suits will come from? THIS is why it's in our best interest to put that fire out over there as quickly as possible. Central Africa has no indigenous aviation capacity. In all of Africa only RSA has any entirely indigenous aviation capacity, and it is not intercontinental. Planes, spares, and almost all ATC and pilots are from outside the region. An FAA followed by an ICAO flight restriction instantly leaves them no means of rapid travel to spread Ebola. A raft made from oil drums and old Chevy station wagons isn't going to get them from Liberia to America, certainly not in time to spread Ebola.
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Who will obama throw under the bus this time? You do know that it is Bushes fault. Bam Bam can never be blamed
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Well fugg, we import everything else, why not a virus or three, hey?
Gotta ask a simple question here. How easy would it have been maybe a month or three back to block travel between the U.S. and Africa or regions therein until this chitt settles out?
Fed right the fug up with the Federal Government. Only travel from the infected region needed to be block. Aid, researchers, and would be do-gooders could have still be allowed to travel to the Ebola region. Those going in would just have had to go for the duration. Yeah, right! And do tell how we prevent someone who wants to come here because we appear to have better medical treatment available and they decide to come by way of Zaire, Namibia, Mozambique and South Africa? We cannot manage a secure border across any single state in the southwest. How do you propose we manage to lock down a much, much longer boundary, most of which is jungle and please tell us while you're at it just how many troops you'll need to do this and how we keep them on duty and where all those hazmat suits will come from? THIS is why it's in our best interest to put that fire out over there as quickly as possible. Central Africa has no indigenous aviation capacity. In all of Africa only RSA has any entirely indigenous aviation capacity, and it is not intercontinental. Planes, spares, and almost all ATC and pilots are from outside the region. An FAA followed by an ICAO flight restriction instantly leaves them no means of rapid travel to spread Ebola. A raft made from oil drums and old Chevy station wagons isn't going to get them from Liberia to America, certainly not in time to spread Ebola. you obviously know jack chit about it all cause it sure can easily get to places like Europe without going through South Africa.....its not just in Liberia....its found in 1/3 of Africa....more if you take the phuggin near no mans land of the Saharah out of the factoring.....it can get out of Africa a hell of alot easier than you think....hell Africa aint even the only continent these viruses naturally occur on.... go ahead keep thinking your safe if we shut down west africa....peo[le are way to mobile these days to keep anything anywhere for long....
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and it lands in texas; what a coincidence. I don't think it's in Texas. I heard it's in Dallas. Whew! Had me concerned there for a minute. Ed
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Okay......what's the pecking order to get an ebola vaccination?.......tho none have been approved by the FDA.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Who will obama throw under the bus this time? White Jews, they control all the Airlines, too 
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Okay......what's the pecking order to get an ebola vaccination?.......tho none have been approved by the FDA.
Okay.....what's the dicking order to get an ebola vaccination? Just remembered whose administration this is.
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Central Africa has no indigenous aviation capacity. In all of Africa only RSA has any entirely indigenous aviation capacity, and it is not intercontinental. Planes, spares, and almost all ATC and pilots are from outside the region. An FAA followed by an ICAO flight restriction instantly leaves them no means of rapid travel to spread Ebola.
A raft made from oil drums and old Chevy station wagons isn't going to get them from Liberia to America, certainly not in time to spread Ebola.
Bulls--t top to bottom. How f--king stupid are you??? Not only is there a pretty fair amount of private and public air travel available, there s a s--tload of countries providing air travel. Many of the countries are notoriously corrupt making an embargo on people with a few bucks virtually impossible, much like Mexico. We can't keep children from crossing the border. How in hell can you even begin to dream up a scenario in which we could secure a much longer, much more difficult border in a fully sovereign country(s) on another continent? Not a damn prayer.
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Central Africa has no indigenous aviation capacity. In all of Africa only RSA has any entirely indigenous aviation capacity, and it is not intercontinental. Planes, spares, and almost all ATC and pilots are from outside the region. An FAA followed by an ICAO flight restriction instantly leaves them no means of rapid travel to spread Ebola.
A raft made from oil drums and old Chevy station wagons isn't going to get them from Liberia to America, certainly not in time to spread Ebola.
Bulls--t top to bottom. How f--king stupid are you??? Not only is there a pretty fair amount of private and public air travel available, there s a s--tload of countries providing air travel. Many of the countries are notoriously corrupt making an embargo on people with a few bucks virtually impossible, much like Mexico. We can't keep children from crossing the border. How in hell can you even begin to dream up a scenario in which we could secure a much longer, much more difficult border in a fully sovereign country(s) on another continent? Not a damn prayer. Your screaming insults doesn't change facts. The region has no indigenous aviation and the continent's only indigenous aviation is in RSA and is not intercontinental. A TFR from FAA and ICAO could instantly cease all legal flights from the Ebola region. Many pilots are already refusing flights to the region and lobbying for those TFRs.
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yeah but it wont stop everyone, someone will still be willing to make a buck to drop someone off in Kenya or Egypt and from there no big deal to hit Europe.....and like i said the original patient doesnt have to make it, they can infect someone along the way that does....
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My daughter works there.At least she is a paper pusher and dosnt deal with patients directly very often. Sweet. I am on a plane to Dallas as I type this.
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Just because you can't stop everyone doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop as many as you can.
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Your screaming insults doesn't change facts.
The region has no indigenous aviation and the continent's only indigenous aviation is in RSA and is not intercontinental.
A TFR from FAA and ICAO could instantly cease all legal flights from the Ebola region.
Many pilots are already refusing flights to the region and lobbying for those TFRs.
Not screaming insults. Just stating fact: You're an idiot who hasn't got a clue. What part of people making more than one hop is it that you do not understand exactly? To truly isolate it you will have to shut down travel to and from virtually everywhere.
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im not saying nothing should be done, just saying Rovering's idea is [bleep] idiotic in that it wont work....your not going to shut down air travel in Africa....no way no how unless you took a shoot down stance militarily.....and thats not going to happen.....
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Just because you can't stop everyone doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop as many as you can. You are as bad as Rovering. It's an infectious disease in a number of corrupt third world countries. You cannot let it go and then expect to contain it there. The only viable option is to put out the fire now. The leaks we can deal with. Putting the fire out minimizes the leaks better than anything else I know of.
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Just talked to my daughter.The doctor she works for is the one treating the Ebola patient.Not concerned about it spreading from the hospital just where else is it already. My daughter works there.At least she is a paper pusher and dosnt deal with patients directly very often. Sweet. I am on a plane to Dallas as I type this.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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THIS is why it's in our best interest to put that fire out over there as quickly as possible.
You should volunteer, and take the place of one the Troops. Put out the fire now! http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-troops-battling-ebola-get-off-to-slow-start-in-africa-1411948064
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