Fearmongers like Rick don't get that it's going to add similar cost all up and down the line to screen everyone every time someone presents with symptoms that could be Ebola.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Screen every feverish patient for Ebola and trace all of his/her contacts for the past two weeks and quarantine/monitor them? Where is that money going to come from? How many people will be shunted into that rat hole while the system proves they aren't Ebola?
How [bleep] stupid is that idea?
Just another one of your straw man arguments, Miles. Tell me, rocket scientist, how much would it cost just to restrict, screen or quarantine/monitor people coming here directly from the hot zones in Africa, like the infected guy in Dallas.
Once again, your argument that if you can't keep out everybody who may be infected you shouldn't keep anyone out is just absurd on its face. Call that fear mongering if you want, but it doesn't make you right.
where's the beef? Show me the frst case to support your argument.
it's tiresome hearing the same advocates for 'calm and trust the government' bleating the same old same old, day after day. Keeping ANYONE from those infected African countries out of AMERICA, is paramount. If we must let them in, then every traveler should be forced to to a month of quarantine, before being let loose on the folks here. This infected POS in Dallas is a prime example. He has evidently infected others as well. It's costing millions of dollars to back track his every contact now. Cheaper, and more effective, to keep he and others like him out of America. I fear hussein has condemned a lot of our service men and women to death, by sending them into those chit holes.
You and Rick can hunker down and barrcade the door and see if he can save you.
What you are too busy parroting misinformation to be able to grasp is that we needn't reach for comparisons nor create hypothetical scenarios. We have a factual Ebola case / outbreak in Texas and we know how it got there.
And we will have more and more of that happening until we fix the problem.
Originally Posted by Rovering
A person with Ebola boarded an ordinary scheduled airline flight or sequence of flights from the known Ebola epidemic country of Liberia to Texas, where the person became both symptomatic and contagious exposing Americans to Ebola.
If those ordinary scheduled airline flight or sequence of flights had been banned by TFR, as some in aviation have been calling for, that person would not now be in America having exposed Americans to Ebola. Simple, known, concrete facts.
You have as yet failed to show so much as a single example of your proposal having stopped a single disease anywhere at any time.
Originally Posted by Rovering
You can spin your fantasy that some Nigerian Prince with his own Gulfstream would have eventually got Ebola, shanghaied a crew from Hong Kong, and flew under ATC radar in radio and transponder silence to Juarez then sneaked across the border all before dieing to still expose Americans to Ebola; but that isn't what has actually happened.
What has actually happened (Facts not Nigerian Princes) to bring Ebola to Texas would not have happened with flight restrictions (bans) in place.
You have still failed to show how any disease at any time has been stopped anywhere at any time with this by securing by your idea.
Cocakamamie as you are you have got to be capable of realizing you don't know what you're talking about because no on has ever done this anywhere at any time. Put up or shut up. produce an example of a disease kept out by travel blockade.
Yes, I have shown that this precise actual Ebola outbreak in Texas would have been absolutely prevented by a ban of air travel from Liberia and other Ebola epidemic countries.
While you swoon to your fantasies of fugitive Nigerian princes in stealth private business jets and parrot misinformation;
some of us are serious enough to be concerned with the actual facts on airports around the world and on the, now, ground zero hot zone of Texas.
This Ebola outbreak will be stopped like every prior Ebola outbreak.
The infection in Texas will be stopped the same way. People will do their job and they will put out the fire. People peeing down their legs will contribute nothing more than a wet spot.
it's tiresome hearing the same advocates for 'calm and trust the government' bleating the same old same old, day after day. Keeping ANYONE from those infected African countries out of AMERICA, is paramount. If we must let them in, then every traveler should be forced to to a month of quarantine, before being let loose on the folks here. This infected POS in Dallas is a prime example. He has evidently infected others as well. It's costing millions of dollars to back track his every contact now. Cheaper, and more effective, to keep he and others like him out of America. I fear hussein has condemned a lot of our service men and women to death, by sending them into those chit holes.
You and Rick can hunker down and barrcade the door and see if he can save you.
chill out Miles, no one is making fun of you. Not like you make fun of everyone else.
Yup. No need to panic. Stress will kill a whole lot more people in this country in the coming years than ebola will.
I am sure the people that shared flights and came into contact with this guy share your your sense of calm.
Some will, some won't. Unfortunately, humans are lousy at risk assessment and emotions often trump rational thought.
CDC estimates that from the 1976-1977 season to the 2006-2007 flu season, flu-associated deaths ranged from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people. The flu is much more contagious. It's contagious before, during and after symptoms develop. The flu will kill many more people on this continent in the foreseeable future, but what are people panicking about? Ebola.
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