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Read on another forum. Guy shoots a 5x5 bull three times with his ML and still can't kill him. Watches the elk, snaps pictures of it while laying there still alive and thrashing.... laying in a ditch/stream.....after 30 minutes he decides he needs to go get help WHILE BULL IS STILL ALIVE. Couple of miles back to camp to get his buds, they come back............you already know the end of the story. G-o-n-e.

You pack in somewhere elk hunting and you only carry three loads? You leave him still thrashing around after 30 minutes of misery? You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull? Make a damn spear or something!!!

Apparently he must have been shooting a patched round ball because his stated load was 45 grains of bp. Elk's shoulders were eating that load for lunch from what I could gather.

Sickening.


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45 grains of BP isn't even a decent load with a .50 caliber round ball, that doesn't sound right.



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In Colorado at least that would be grounds for wanton waste of big game meat and would carry a fine. Hope someone turn that idiot in, no matter what state it was.


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Pretty sickening indeed!!! It's apparent that some guys just don't need to be out there hunting...


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That really sucks. Poor animal.

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Makes my skin crawl.

I suppose that until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes you don't really know what it's like. But I'm sure I could have figured out a way to put him away for good.

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Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......


+1. I've seen that done with a mule deer doe and that was a rodeo I would want no part of. Can't imagine trying that on an elk.

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Took two buddies of mine elk hunting a number of years ago. One guy's Ruger 77 broke the day before the hunt so I loaned him mine. His was 30-06, mine was 7mm-08. We killed a nice bull the first morning and he went off on his own to try and get his own. Apparently he didn't realize that he only had 30-06 ammo in his pack and the 4-5 7mm rounds that were in the rifle.

Shot a bull and knocked him down and got one lung ( I think). Then followed him up and made another poor shot. Shot again and hit him in the skull where the antler attaches. This knocked him out. He went up to take photos and the bull got up. He was now empty and couldn't find anymore ammo!

He sat 20 yards from the bull for several hours until it finally died. He had a whole roll of film of the bull looking at him.

Crazy things can happen. I'm glad he didn't try and play Chuck Norris and cut his throat!


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Years ago I went elk hunting with an old friend. I shot a big cow and we headed back to the truck for packing gear. On the way, a cow came over a ridge about 75 yds away. Then another, and another. They just kept coming. My friend shot and missed in his excitement. Then he started fiddling with his rifle and never shot again. Before it was done, at least 40 elk had paraded by broadside within gimme range and he never shot a 2d round.

He was learning to reload and bought one of those little Lee hand loaders. He'd picked up a bunch of brass at popular shooting site in the desert and loaded them. As you might know, the Lees only neck size, not full length. You only neck size when using brass fired in your own rifle. His rifle apparently had a minimum sized chamber. By pure luck, the 1 round he shot fit. He had 10 more with him and not a single one of them would chamber. I was hunkered down about 5 yds behind him. If I'd known what he was doing, I'd have handed him my rifle.

I had a set of 30-06 dies at home so after the hunt, we pulled all the bullets and resized his brass. It was an honest mistake for a beginner and he never realized that he needed to test load all of his cartridges in his rifle under those conditions.


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......

Was in that situation just last week....but I was prepared.


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Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......

Was in that situation just last week....but I was prepared.


You had extra shells or you had to use the knife?


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......


Well, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.....



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Originally Posted by SKane
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Originally Posted by Godogs57
You don't have a knife? Scared of a thrashing bull?


You evidently haven't been on the receiving end of what a crippled bull can do, or seen the raw power of their hooves and horns in person.......

don't have a knife? good grief......

Was in that situation just last week....but I was prepared.


You had extra shells or you had to use the knife?


Extra shells. My point in the whole thing is that I found it hard to understand how a person could watch a wounded elk for 30 minutes, do nothing, then walk back to camp....elk still not dead.....it was a tough situation to be in for sure. But, good Lord, do something. In that 30 minutes I would have at least tried something....and I bet y'all would have too.


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Oh, I hear ya. Don't know that I'd be so eager to share if I were that guy.

He deserves whatever ridicule he's getting.


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but it damn sure wouldn't have been to try to stab it or cut his throat.

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
but it damn sure wouldn't have been to try to stab it or cut his throat.


Agree...totally.


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