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Got one of those on the .223AI...it IS the cats zzz....  +1 on that vote! Although I might switch the FFII with dotz on the .223 plastikka with the vx2 with dotz on the 7/08 plastikka after this season..
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Got one of those on the .223AI...it IS the cats zzz.... +1 on that vote! Although I might switch the FFII with dotz on the .223 plastikka with the vx2 with dotz on the 7/08 plastikka after this season.. Veddy intriguing..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Not really. I just like the ff2 hash marks better than the loopy dots.
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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Cats azz of cats azzezz.......... ![[Linked Image]](http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/16bore/3006T3.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/16bore/Targets/3006scenar_zps8e4eaa7c.jpg)
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Couple of years ago I bought a new rifle (Ruger Hawkeye). Put a Bushnell scope on it and started working up loads. Shot pretty well, but I wanted a higher power variable, so I bought one. Rifle accuracy started out good, but started to get worse. Thought it was the loads. Went through several powders and bullets and it just got worse. Cleaned it to within an inch of its life and it still shot poorly. Lord knows how many reloads I put through it until I was shuffling stuff on the workbench and found an old target (back when the Bushnell was on there). Great group, so I loaded up some more of that and it shot poorly. Hmmm. Swapped the scope out. It was the darn scope. Took me forever and a couple pounds of powder and bullets to figure that out. So yes, try swapping the scope out if you haven't already.
That's the problem with a new rifle. There's no basic load that you know works good. If I'd had that, I'd have known quickly that the scope was the problem and not the rifle. With the level of scientific thought you obviously go through life with should you even be giving advice?
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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A good rig will shoot chit ammo better than a chit rig will shoot good ammo...
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See if it says "Tikka" on it anywhere. Sounds like you might have your rifles confused.
I've had a few of them and they all shoot great. You might have got a lemon but I'm guessing the scope or it just doesn't like the ammo.
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Not really. I just like the ff2 hash marks better than the loopy dots. Rancho, have you tried Leupold's LR duplex reticle. I had a 4-12x40 with that set-up and it was very similar to the FFII ballistic plex..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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A good rig will shoot chit ammo better than a chit rig will shoot good ammo... Isn't that the truth!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Cats azz of cats azzezz.......... Great shooting buddy, but what was that you were just saying about good rifles shooting chit ammo well. No flies on the 155 scenar. Like I told mathman a while back, anyone can make matchkings shoot. The same can be said for the scenars. Really chit ammo begins with seconds and Winchester powerpoints. Your groups make all 30-06 lovers proud. Here's one of mine with a good rifle and real "chit ammo"... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/013_zpsaa2b4d1e.jpg) I dialed this load in for 2 rifles so it's a happy medium but still works. Same ammo taken from the same box, but shot in a different model 70: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/001-105_zps24af4785.jpg) Had to re-check that load in my fwt after I glass bedded it into the swirly the other day. Still shooting it well: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/IMG_1117_zps7b7f228f.jpg) Shoots the plain jane blemished partitions alright too: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/IMG_1124_zpsa66df552.jpg) Hey, do you want to get rid of some of those 53gr. V-max??
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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For sure, and power points are about as bottom barrel as you can get. If I had spent as much time chasing mechanicals as much as I have a couple thousands OAL and tenths of powder, I'da figured alotta chit out long ago.
Not sure about "53 Vmax" as I ain't even got a .224 these days. 6x45 is the soup de jour. Bedded, rebedded, tip pressure, mag box nip, stock fooked, torque values and the list goes on.
None of the ammo chit means chit when you overlook the bolt lug riding the action screw. Starting at the Start and a $0.99 Sharpie REALLY is a guys best friend....
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Good post. It is all about mechanicals. I'm glad to see that in your post. Oh, by the way. Look on the shelf on the right hand side and you'll see those 53gr, V-max bullets . My .223 rem loves them..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Ha, didnt even catch that. That's an older pic than I thought. You didn't catch the old Winchester silvertips next to the 53's.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Well I wanted to give a update. I went and bought a new leupold along with a set of low Talley rings. Took some 140 grain corelokts and it is shooting really good shot it into a 3 shot 1/2 inch group. I tried to post pics from my phone but says file is to big. Anyways I have not got to shoot the original scope I will put it on the other gun and try it soon see if the redfield needs to be sent off. Just wanted to say thanks for everyone's help can't wait to see how it shoots with reloads
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Whew, that was close......
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Whew, that was close...... Damn sure was. A Tikker that won't shoot? Never heard of such. 
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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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