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I bought a zip lock bag of 95gr btips and have no idea how old they are. Iirc they were beefed up at some point. Can anyone post a cross section of an old one and a new one? Or if you don't have any old ones, just a picture of a new one will do. I can compare it to mine then.
I'm sure both versions work but if I have the newer version I can give them a bit more gas. Thanks

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From what Dogzapper has stated on the fire, the 6mm 95gr was beefy at its introduction.


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If you bought them in a plastic bag then they're probably factory seconds.

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Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by woodson
If you bought them in a plastic bag then they're probably factory seconds.


I always stop at the Nosler factory every time I'm in Bend and pick up a lot of seconds. Never have I had a problem shooting seconds on paper or game. Nosler's quality control is strict and seconds many times have no visible defect. I've weighed hundreds of seconds on they've always been right on spec.

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Originally Posted by Ward
Originally Posted by woodson
If you bought them in a plastic bag then they're probably factory seconds.


I always stop at the Nosler factory every time I'm in Bend and pick up a lot of seconds. Never have I had a problem shooting seconds on paper or game. Nosler's quality control is strict and seconds many times have no visible defect. I've weighed hundreds of seconds on they've always been right on spec.



I have several hundred Nosler 2nd's in 6.5mm, 140gr.hpbt match bullets that vary considerably in the ogive and metplat, no consistency!
So much for cosmetic blemish's. I call B.S.


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Nosler factory seconds are excellent bullets and fully equal to the "firsts."

Frankly, I have never seen an external blemish or badly assembled bullet in Nosler's seconds. What I HAVE seen is that the bullet weight may be a grain or so heavier or lighter than the target weight ... thus, the lot is declared seconds. But, the weight will be consistent within the lot and the individual bag of bullets.

Don't ask me how I know, but whenever Nosler is out-of-stock in a bullet that is requested by a gun writer, they will ship bags of seconds to the writer. If the seconds were inaccurate or inferior in any way, Nosler simply would not do that.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Ward
[quote=woodson]If you bought them in a plastic bag then they're probably factory seconds.


I have several hundred Nosler 2nd's in 6.5mm, 140gr.hpbt match bullets that vary considerably in the ogive and metplat, no consistency!
So much for cosmetic blemish's. I call B.S.


My experience - 95 NAB 1/2" - 3 shot groups
At 200 yds....YMMV

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