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well I don't count preparing for the worst and hoping for the best as Panic


I just call that living with reality.


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Originally Posted by toad
number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

but feel free to panic
or you can just whistle past the graveyard, and hope for the best. smile


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
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number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

but feel free to panic
or you can just whistle past the graveyard, and hope for the best. smile


The death rate for the dreaded Swine flue was .03%
The death rate for Ebola is 50%-90%

My whole family's had swine flu and we all lived. I doubt that would be the case if we all contracted Ebola.


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so what is worse? the 23,000 flu deaths or the 2500 ebola deaths?

what about malaria? There were an estimated 627,000 malaria deaths worldwide in 2012



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Originally Posted by Gremlin1104
The University of Minnesota denies that its Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) has said Ebola can be transmitted through the air.

CIDRAP News had published a commentary raising that possibility on Sept. 17.

"Being at first skeptical that Ebola virus could be an aerosol-transmissible disease, we are now persuaded by a review of experimental and epidemiologic data that this might be an important feature of disease transmission, particularly in health-care settings," the authors wrote.

Some news sites such as Breitbart.com took that to mean CIDRAP officially endorsed the authors' position.

On Thursday, the university said CIDRAP does not make that claim. The authors, Lisa M. Brosseau and Rachael Jones, are from the University of Illinois at Chicago, not the University of Minnesota, the rebuttal stated.

Ebola experts such as Erica Ollmann Saphire at The Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla said the virus can't survive as dry microscopic particles wafting in the air or on surfaces, because dessication destroys the viral membrane.

It's also extremely unlikely that the virus could be transmitted through droplets from a nearby person sneezing. Tests in non-human primates have failed to find transmission through droplets, and such transmission has not been documented in people.

However, Ebola replicates with greater efficiency in the respiratory tract of pigs, Ollmann Saphire said. In the laboratory, monkeys housed in cages about 10 inches away from infected pigs have acquired Ebola through droplet transmission.

"So do not bring your infected pig on an airplane," Ollmann Saphire said. "Do not spend multiple days in face-to-face contact with an infected pig."


Interesting. Yet Senator Rand Paul (who also happens to be a medical doctor) is claiming that the CDC defines "direct contact" as being within three feet of an infected person, and further, that the CDC website "says being within three feet of an infected patient for a prolonged period of time without the proper gear is a 'low-risk exposure' for Ebola".

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...incredibly-contagious.html#ixzz3GSDUL8fZ

So ... who do you believe? Maybe better to err on the side caution and "be safe than sorry."

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Originally Posted by toad
number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

but feel free to panic


Couple problems with your comparison.

Flu kills mostly old or really young people, it folks with already bad health.

And a very small percentage of people who get the flu die, but about half of everyone that gets Ebola bites the dust.

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Originally Posted by toad
number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

but feel free to panic


Couple problems with your comparison.

Flu kills mostly old or really young people, it folks with already bad health.

And a very small percentage of people who get the flu die, but about half of everyone that gets Ebola bites the dust.


the fact remains that flu is gonna kill more of us than ebola.

texting while driving is wayyy more likely to kill you and I than ebola.

I think people just WANT to panic


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the fact remains that flu is gonna kill more of us than ebola.



Really? How ebola outbreaks have there been in the US, and what was the mortality rate?


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the fact remains that flu is gonna kill more of us than ebola.



Really? How ebola outbreaks have there been in the US, and what was the mortality rate?


my point exactly.


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the fact remains that flu is gonna kill more of us than ebola.



Thats not a point, just a factless statement.


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again, for the slow:

number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

ebola has been bouncing around Africa for a long time and hasn't killed everybody. do ya really think it's gonna slam the U.S if Africa can survive decades of it?

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Yup and I agree with all six. This is the virus that will really wipe out most of the US.


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ebola has been bouncing around Africa for a long time and hasn't killed everybody. do ya really think it's gonna slam the U.S?



Its a 3 day walk to town in africa. Here you can land in 3 airports in a day. Wether or not it takes off is anybodys guess; but importing it is insanity.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...xtensions-From-Ebola-Countries-in-August


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My biggest concern is the pathetic lack of leadership from the current Administration. That pathetic lack of leadership seems to be universal to every issue facing the President and his inept crew, but in this instance the Administration's failings have the distinct possibility of getting Americans killed instead of non-Americans (e.g., Syrians, Iraqis, Ukrainians, West Africans, etc.).

That said, I'm concerned we are going to be facing a situation with the Ebola outbreak in which we're "fighting the last war." In military history, it is common to find examples of nations, even on both sides of a conflict, unprepared for the new war because they had structured their military and strategy to win a war fought the way the last one was. Technology sometimes advances very quickly and so can virus mutations. Doing at least a LITTLE MORE than is thought to be required to contain an outbreak is prudent. Doing the minimal thought to be required to contain an outbreak is foolish. I'm concerned that the current Administration is looking to the minimal end of the spectrum and Americans are going to die as a result.

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Originally Posted by toad
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number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

ebola has been bouncing around Africa for a long time and hasn't killed everybody. do ya really think it's gonna slam the U.S if Africa can survive decades of it?
[img]http://www.africaontheblog.com/wp-
content/uploads/2014/09/ebola-outbreaks.jpg[/img]



There is speculation that Ebola may be evolving and can be transferred through droplets, that means sneezes and coughs etc..
If that is true it may become as common as the flue?
I am a little slow, so what am I missing?


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Originally Posted by toad
again, for the slow:

number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500

number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)

ebola has been bouncing around Africa for a long time and hasn't killed everybody. do ya really think it's gonna slam the U.S if Africa can survive decades of it?

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Toad, I don't know what interest you have in putting out false information, but today CNN is reporting almost 4500 Ebola deaths. That's more than twice as many as what you wrote.

CNN reporting that Ebola outbreak is running much faster than response

The proper response to the current Ebola problem that has grown larger than it needed to have is to attack it aggressively now, but the Administration is still bumbling along and not doing the things needed to restore the public's confidence in the public health sector.

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That map is obsolete. Even the cdc says a possibility of 1.4 million by january.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/qa-mmwr-estimating-future-cases.html


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This blind panic more than matches the irrationality of obama voters and their free phones.

We are truly overrun with stupid on this forum.


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