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New Model 1920 #9263429 10/17/14
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 OP Campfire Tracker
OP Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan	I found a nice Model 1920 yesterday. It's a pretty early .250, #1351, with 22" barrel. I'm assuming that this is a first year Model 1920. Correct? Seems to be in nice original condition. It has a small chip out of the toe of the stock, but aside from that I don't see any big problems. The bore is nice. It has a Savage marked open rear sight with an elevator that has a screw adjustment. Is this the correct sight? With the short barrel it seems to be a sweet handling little rifle. If I can get some shooting done with it this month, it may get some time in the woods this deer season. Rod Last edited by Phil99; 10/17/14. ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

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Re: New Model 1920 Phil99 #9263444 10/17/14
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,685 Nebraska D diamondjim Campfire Outfitter
diamondjim Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,685 Nebraska	Sure is pretty Rod. It should be first year. I can't answer the other questions. Sweet rifle. ____________________________________________________________ Dying gets closer every day Lloyd McCarter and the Honky Tonk Revival

Re: New Model 1920 diamondjim #9263464 10/17/14
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Re: New Model 1920 diamondjim #9263474 10/17/14
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,721 Eastern PA steve99 Campfire Tracker
steve99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,721 Eastern PA	Rod, Had SN 1982 in the same cal. Same rear sight. Looks like a nice one. Congrats! "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed-unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison

Re: New Model 1920 steve99 #9263568 10/17/14
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Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon	Wow what a find! _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

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Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9263998 10/17/14
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olgrouser Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,996 ON & NB	Sweet! "Rhetoric is no substitute for reality." -Thomas Sowell

Re: New Model 1920 olgrouser #9264014 10/17/14
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana
Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska	Very nice rifle! “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: New Model 1920 Calhoun #9264058 10/18/14
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,497 Victoria, Australia J johno Campfire Regular
johno Campfire Regular J Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,497 Victoria, Australia	Rory, thats a nice find. Back in the 90s there was an article in shooting magazine over here with photos of a 1920 with original box & papers in 250-3000. The journo went to one of our major stores to photograph it and do the story. A bloke walked in and saw it, asked the price, which I believe was very high and bought it. Well this week a mate tracked it down for me, I hope to somehow start talking with the owner, but I think it will be out of price range. So to hi jack your post Johno

Re: New Model 1920 johno #9264447 10/18/14
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,075 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,075 Annapolis, Md.	Nice find, Rod. Letting us find nice 1920's is God's way of saying he likes us! "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: New Model 1920 gnoahhh #9264523 10/18/14
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon	Originally Posted by gnoahhh Nice find, Rod. Letting us find nice 1920's in 250-3000 is God's way of saying he likes loves us! _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

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Re: New Model 1920 gnoahhh #9266156 10/19/14
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Skidrow Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee	Absolutely! +100 Go tell the Spartans,Travelers passing by,That here,Obedient to their laws we lie. I'm older now but I'm still runnin' against the wind

Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9266272 10/19/14
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 OP Campfire Tracker
OP Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan	Loading up some 87 grain bullets this morning. I'll be taking it to the cabin next weekend for some shooting. I've got a couple of deer stands up there that are well suited for iron sights. ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9268991 10/20/14
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec O olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn
olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn O Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec	I still don't know what to do about my 300 Sav. Model 1920. Much more of an arms user and hunter than collector, I am hesitating about hunting with the rifle or putting it up for sale. I am yet to shoot a round with the smokepole. Scoping the rifle means drilling/ tapping the receiver and bending the bolt's lever. Scope bases would have to be custom crafted. Collector value would be lost. On the other hand, as to the 300 Sav. round, there's a fully functional and well-scoped 99F of the sixties standing in the gun cabinet... Itching, isn't it?

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9269031 10/20/14
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon	Originally Posted by jmschmitt I still don't know what to do about my 300 Sav. Model 1920. Much more of an arms user and hunter than collector, I am hesitating about hunting with the rifle or putting it up for sale. I am yet to shoot a round with the smokepole. Scoping the rifle means drilling/ tapping the receiver and bending the bolt's lever. Scope bases would have to be custom crafted. Collector value would be lost. On the other hand, as to the 300 Sav. round, there's a fully functional and well-scoped 99F of the sixties standing in the gun cabinet... Itching, isn't it? Resist the urge to Tinkerbell. Hunt the 99. _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9269056 10/20/14
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,685 Nebraska D diamondjim Campfire Outfitter
diamondjim Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,685 Nebraska	Hunt it....don't need a scope.....and as for the 300 Savage. It works. ____________________________________________________________ Dying gets closer every day Lloyd McCarter and the Honky Tonk Revival

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9269069 10/20/14
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,075 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,075 Annapolis, Md.	Nothing saying that one has to attach a scope to a 1920 to get good use out of it. One alternative is to mount a tail block (bolt sleeve) sight, the Lyman 54, on it. Minimally intrusive, and puts an aperture right back in front of the eye where it does the most good. Cost? Not cheap, but probably less than a quality scope and the cost of mounting it. "Bad" eyes? Bah. My eyes are worse than most and I manage my 1920 quite well with one of these sights. The other obvious alternative is to just go with the sights God put on them at the factory. Alter your hunting habits to accomodate open sights, by getting up close and personal with your quarry. Take it as a challenge to be mastered, much like the growing wave of interest in mastering traditional recurve bows by the compound bow devotees. You gotta wonder how our forerunners manged to kill stuff back when these guns were new and scopes were so rare as to be non-existent. Last edited by gnoahhh; 10/20/14. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9269077 10/20/14
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana
Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska	Originally Posted by jmschmitt I still don't know what to do about my 300 Sav. Model 1920. Much more of an arms user and hunter than collector, I am hesitating about hunting with the rifle or putting it up for sale. I am yet to shoot a round with the smokepole. Scoping the rifle means drilling/ tapping the receiver and bending the bolt's lever. Scope bases would have to be custom crafted. Collector value would be lost. On the other hand, as to the 300 Sav. round, there's a fully functional and well-scoped 99F of the sixties standing in the gun cabinet... Itching, isn't it? If not comfortable hunting with iron sights and you like hunters/shooters, use it as trade fodder for 1 or 2 older 99's that have been drilled and tapped already. Older ones are cool.. especially if you branch out to 250-3000 or 303 Savage or some such. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: New Model 1920 Calhoun #9269146 10/20/14
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Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9269182 10/20/14
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec O olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn
olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn O Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec	Originally Posted by Fireball2 Resist the urge to Tinkerbell. Hunt the 99. Sound advice Fireball2, I believe. I have not shot open sights since the early 70's, so it would be more than a challenge to go back to ...basics. Will think about it this afternoon while sitting on my Hochsitz (It's moose season in my area...). Talk to you Friends!

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9269253 10/20/14
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,273 Oregon	Originally Posted by jmschmitt I have not shot open sights since the early 70's, so it would be more than a challenge to go back to ...basics. That's one of the great favors our fathers did for us was starting us on iron sights. It comes right back, or never left at all. Last edited by Fireball2; 10/20/14. _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

Re: New Model 1920 Phil99 #9270372 10/20/14
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1899sav Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois	Rod Thats Nice One for Sure, Congrats. A Few Of Mine Do Well With Silvertips also. �Can we move this along?" a bored voice stated. "I have places to be and people to shag."

Re: New Model 1920 1899sav #9271119 10/20/14
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tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	My eyesight isn't that great either, but I have managed a large sow at 70 yards, a doe at 60, and a turkey at the same distance with open sights, so it can be done. "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: New Model 1920 Phil99 #9271334 10/21/14
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Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,621 Lyndeborough New Hampshire	Originally Posted by Phil99 I found a nice Model 1920 yesterday. It's a pretty early .250, #1351, with 22" barrel. I'm assuming that this is a first year Model 1920. Correct? Seems to be in nice original condition. It has a small chip out of the toe of the stock, but aside from that I don't see any big problems. The bore is nice. It has a Savage marked open rear sight with an elevator that has a screw adjustment. Is this the correct sight? With the short barrel it seems to be a sweet handling little rifle. If I can get some shooting done with it this month, it may get some time in the woods this deer season. Rod Nice rifle, Rod. Thanks for the PM. I've been trying to post for several days. Other activities keep getting in the way. Here's a picture of mine that is scoped. Here's a second picture. The scope really looks like it's mounted way off center, but it's not. Actually it's less than a 32nd off center. It's a homemade mount. It's high so I can clear the bolt handle. When I got the gun from Saddlering, the bolt hit the eyepiece on the scope. Rather than bend the bolt, I made my own mount to raise the scope. Now I have a leather lace on cheekpiece made around 1900. I haven't used the gun since. Congratulations on a nice find. [img]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/longbeardking/steveforstbuck2.jpg[/img] NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: New Model 1920 Phil99 #9272063 10/21/14
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Keystone 250 Campfire Member K Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 254 Central VA	sweet rifle, Rod, congrats Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Re: New Model 1920 Fireball2 #9295054 10/29/14
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec O olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn
olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn O Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec	After giving the matter much thought, I have made the decision to sell my Savage early Model 1920 rather than having it modified for any type of optical sight. According to information posted on this forum, the rifle�s serial number ( 771X) indicates manufacturing in 1923: Year -----Qty ------Serial (stating at 1000) 1920 ------4426 ----- 5426 1921 -------462 ----- 5888 1922 ------1203 ----- 7091 1923 ------1182 ---- 8273 1924 ------- 941 ---- 9214 1925 -------687 ----- 9901 Total 8901 Here�s the markings on various elements of the rifle: A) Receiver: (upper left side) Savage 1920 Model (underneath, left side) 771X B) Barrel: (left-side, breech end) Hi-Pressure Steel (trumpet) Sav. .300 (trumpet) (upper center of barrel) Manufactured by Savage Arms Corp. Utica N.Y. U.S.A. (trumpet) Pat. March 28.1916.Dec.26.1916. June.17.1919 (trumpet) (Right side of integral front sight base) Patent Sept.4.06 C) Rear sight blade: Savage Arms Corp. Utica N.Y. Pat.Pen�d The butt plate has the indian�s head logo in an oval. It is marked Savage Quality Trade Mark Description of the rifle: Fully original, no alterations whatsoever. Original rust blueing 99% on barrel/ receiver/trigger guard. Blueing on bolt body fading. All other parts of the bolt assembly, including lever are 99% Stock is original condition. Checkering is 99%. Varnish has dings due to handling. I will offer the rifle for $ 1200.- If anyone idis interested, please let me know.

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9296159 10/30/14
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois 1899sav Campfire Outfitter
1899sav Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois	Originally Posted by jmschmitt After giving the matter much thought, I have made the decision to sell my Savage early Model 1920 rather than having it modified for any type of optical sight. According to information posted on this forum, the rifle�s serial number ( 771X) indicates manufacturing in 1923: Year -----Qty ------Serial (stating at 1000) 1920 ------4426 ----- 5426 1921 -------462 ----- 5888 1922 ------1203 ----- 7091 1923 ------1182 ---- 8273 1924 ------- 941 ---- 9214 1925 -------687 ----- 9901 Total 8901 Here�s the markings on various elements of the rifle: A) Receiver: (upper left side) Savage 1920 Model (underneath, left side) 771X B) Barrel: (left-side, breech end) Hi-Pressure Steel (trumpet) Sav. .300 (trumpet) (upper center of barrel) Manufactured by Savage Arms Corp. Utica N.Y. U.S.A. (trumpet) Pat. March 28.1916.Dec.26.1916. June.17.1919 (trumpet) (Right side of integral front sight base) Patent Sept.4.06 C) Rear sight blade: Savage Arms Corp. Utica N.Y. Pat.Pen�d The butt plate has the indian�s head logo in an oval. It is marked Savage Quality Trade Mark Description of the rifle: Fully original, no alterations whatsoever. Original rust blueing 99% on barrel/ receiver/trigger guard. Blueing on bolt body fading. All other parts of the bolt assembly, including lever are 99% Stock is original condition. Checkering is 99%. Varnish has dings due to handling. I will offer the rifle for $ 1200.- If anyone idis interested, please let me know. Photo's Would Help �Can we move this along?" a bored voice stated. "I have places to be and people to shag."

Re: New Model 1920 1899sav #9296545 10/30/14
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec O olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn
olshotFR Campfire Greenhorn O Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 43 Quebec	You may take a look at the pictures posted on page 4 of the following topic: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9238739/4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> #9239999 - 10/08/14 04:17 PM Re: Savage Model 1920,300 savage? [Re: jmschmitt] jmschmitt Online content Member Registered: 10/07/14 Posts: 29 Here's 5 pictures of my Mod. 1920. Sorry, no more than 5 pictures allowed. Attachments sIMG_20141008_114203139.jpg (89 downloads) sIMG_20141008_114252203.jpg (80 downloads) IMG_20141008_114335660.jpg (69 downloads) sIMG_20141008_114547221.jpg (65 downloads) sIMG_20141008_115004182.jpg (70 downloads) Thank you for your interest in the rifle. Last edited by jmschmitt; 10/30/14.

Re: New Model 1920 olshotFR #9367483 11/26/14
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 OP Campfire Tracker
OP Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan	Got my eye on a new rifle and I'll be letting this "spare" Model 20 go later this week. PM me if interested. Rod ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

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