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Do you think Nosler will ever make an Accubond in .20 cal ?
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I would think no. What animal gets shot with a .20 pill that needs controlled expansion?
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They don't make one in .224, so why would they make one in .204.
The do make the 64 grain bonded solid base in .224 which covers that space.
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I can only imagine that it would be pretty good medicine for coyotes, but I doubt they will ever make it.
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I would think no. What animal gets shot with a .20 pill that needs controlled expansion? 204s work just fine on deer, especially with the 45 grain Hornady. But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber.
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I would think no. What animal gets shot with a .20 pill that needs controlled expansion? exactly......the 20 cal 40 gr V max is all one needs
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I would think no. What animal gets shot with a .20 pill that needs controlled expansion? 204s work just fine on deer, especially with the 45 grain Hornady. But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber. Too bad that load is so hard to find; looked for that 45 for a friend who hunts fur (wolves on down) and prefers the less destructive slower bullet, especially when he tags fox with it.
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I would think no. What animal gets shot with a .20 pill that needs controlled expansion? 204s work just fine on deer, especially with the 45 grain Hornady. But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber. How many states allow 20 cal? Most stop at 22 cal for deer.
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...But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber. Why?
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Lots of states have no restrictions, or at least require it to be centerfire.
Alaska would be fine
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...But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber. Why? To shoot big game with.
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Montana is another with no restrictions.
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Too bad that load is so hard to find; looked for that 45 for a friend who hunts fur (wolves on down) and prefers the less destructive slower bullet, especially when he tags fox with it.
I believe that is one of the bullets on Hornady's suspended list. Hopefully they get them going soon; a friend of mine really likes them for fur, as well as deer & antelope. ...But it would be nice to have a dedicated big game bullet in 20 caliber. Why? To shoot big game with. Exactly.
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Next we'll be hearing from Savage 99, ranting about how the .257 Roberts is totally inadequate for deer, and why would anybody use the .204 when there are real deer cartridges out there like the widely-available .358 Winchester?
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Dober and I prayed to the Monolithic Gods for a couple years to make a 32-40 gr TSX.....
No luck...
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Ingwe, what ever happened to dober? Wish he would come back and post here again.
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I don't have the inside scoop, but I know him well enough to say he was sick of the drama,the trolls, and the contention.He is just a plain good guy, knows his stuff, and loves to shoot/hunt a lot.
I will have to look him up next time Im in Boz Angeles.
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Next we'll be hearing from Savage 99, ranting about how the .257 Roberts is totally inadequate for deer, and why would anybody use the .204 when there are real deer cartridges out there like the widely-available .358 Winchester? A CRF rifle is also a must, because with a push feed there is little chance of the round making it all the way into the chamber without a dreadful jam.
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I don't have the inside scoop, but I know him well enough to say he was sick of the drama,the trolls, and the contention.He is just a plain good guy, knows his stuff, and loves to shoot/hunt a lot.
I will have to look him up next time Im in Boz Angeles. That's the problem with the relative anonymity of the Internet. I'm sure we've all had folks say things on a keyboard they'd never say face to face. Or at least within reach.
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There was an article on internet manners in the Rotarian Magazine a few months ago. I started a thread on it and there were some good comments on the subject. http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9048057/1Scenarshooter is another who was a great contributor and seldom posts any more. Seems we lose the ones we need to keep and keep the ones we need to lose...DF
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Yep, Dober got tired of Campfire experts who kept telling him he couldn't possibly have done stuff he'd done dozens of times. For a while he tried to convince them he knew what end of a rifle a bullet came out of, but eventually grew weary of having nitwits and trolls jumping into so many threads.
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There was an article on internet manners in the Rotarian Magazine a few months ago. I started a thread on it and there were some good comments on the subject. http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9048057/1Scenarshooter is another who was a great contributor and seldom posts any more. Seems we lose the ones we need to keep and keep the ones we need to lose...DF Good thread.
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Yep, Dober got tired of Campfire experts who kept telling him he couldn't possibly have done stuff he'd done dozens of times. For a while he tried to convince them he knew what end of a rifle a bullet came out of, but eventually grew weary of having nitwits and trolls jumping into so many threads. That's a shame. The collective knowledge on this forum is invaluable. Even some of the stuff Ingwe posts. 
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Yep, Dober got tired of Campfire experts who kept telling him he couldn't possibly have done stuff he'd done dozens of times. For a while he tried to convince them he knew what end of a rifle a bullet came out of, but eventually grew weary of having nitwits and trolls jumping into so many threads. That's a shame. The collective knowledge on this forum is invaluable. Even some of the stuff Ingwe posts. Ingwe...? Not sure about him... Seriously, the Fire is a great place to share Loony info and learn a great deal from the collective experience of so many accomplished riflemen and hunters. The Fire is not too unlike eating chicken wings. You chew and swallow the meat, spit out the bones. There's an art to knowing the difference...  DF
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I like the comment on manners. We've already got enough tough guys. Some manners would help balance the books.
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aussiegunwriter.... +1
What happened to the old saying.... "If you don't have anything nice to say,then don't say anything"
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Dober and I prayed to the Monolithic Gods for a couple years to make a 32-40 gr TSX.....
No luck... FWIW, I know they've made them as I've shot them. I guy I met once through a different forum was on their 'Pro Staff'. He requested a few to use in his 20 Tactical (pre-204 days) and used them on deer in Idaho. Loved 'em for kids to use. Doubt I can find the article, but he wrote one for the Deer Hunters of Idaho group that they published in their newsletter. It was mostly about taking kids hunting, but talked a bit about the rifle and loads he let the kids use. I only got to shoot them at ground squirrels. They died...
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