24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098
G
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098
Originally Posted by squesh
never claimed it became a rifle. I claimed, and it can be shown in animals, that it's a LOT more effective than what you've got in your pocket gun right now. :-) go ahead, be "comfortable" with loads that don't work worth a hoot. Cause they don't. You won't find enough chest hits (on people) with any given load,to give you a real reason to favor that load. You'd need at least 20 such hits, on video. Thats's the only proof of what happened (soon enough to stop an attack) People lie, have mispreceptions, etc. animal shoots are repeatable, as many times as you want. flesh and blood is flesh and blood. If the bullet doesn't expand and overpenetrates in critters, it will do even worse on men, due to the clothing issue.

examining a dead body doesn't tell you if the guy was stopped instantly, or fought on for 10 seconds before dying, after being shot, that is. all you know is he's dead. So what? he might have lived for days after being shot. the dead body doesn't tell you anything about how much shock and destruction the load achieved.


Do you actually believe the bullscheit that spews from your own mouth, my god your azz must be jealous!


The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude


Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell


GB1

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 99
S
squesh Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
S
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 99
care to TRY refuting any of it, instead of just talking out of your lover pocket?

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098
G
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098
Show me some peer reviewed studies.


As far as your BS about conventional loads not working

me, and the FBI disagree with you.

We carried Glock 45's for the first 11 years I was on the Job, every gunfight we had was stopped very very quickly with 230 Grain Gold Dots, and 55 Grain Vmax fom an M-4


Post Mortens will
Most certainly tell you how a bullet performed, via wound channel, and bullet traverse


Last edited by gitem_12; 10/21/14.

The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude


Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell


Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,058
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,058
I frequently carry a G29 loaded w Doubletap 135 Noz JHPs. They're rate at 767 ME from a G20, bet they're still WAY over 500 ME from my Snubby Glock.

Spare G20 mags full of DT 200 gr. WFNGC which are hitting 542 Me at 100 yards from G20.

But pretty sure it's where the holes are placed that matters most...


�When in doubt, I whip it out.� Uncle Ted
[Linked Image]
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,038
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,038
All y'all confusing the kid's emotions'n such with such numbers. laugh

Carry on. grin



I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


IC B2

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,880
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,880
Originally Posted by squesh
any 9mm luger gun can be rechambered to fire the 356 TSW rd. No, you don't want standard weight bullets. What you want is 45 grs at 2200 fps. with the hp bullet split nearly in half from the front. It's actually more shocking and destructive (on animal tests) than a 4" 357 with 125 gr jhp's. Yet it recoils like a 380. I practice with my cast lead 125 gr lrn's, at 800 fps. same recoil. Lots less blast and flash, tho.:-)


Anyone quoting foot pounds of energy as a way to rate lethality hasn't a clue and that is a fact.



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518
Is this still the "Ask the gunwriters" forum?


If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.

Doug
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

570 members (10gaugemag, 1lessdog, 1234, 10gaugeman, 007FJ, 160user, 68 invisible), 2,326 guests, and 1,249 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,657
Posts18,455,621
Members73,909
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.069s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8256 MB (Peak: 0.8997 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-19 17:46:58 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS