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I do not understand at all, CraigC, Whitworth and JWP do not get along with me but all post the right things.
Very strange all agree.
Been years and years that I said ME means nothing but now it is repeated by those that did not agree.
Been very hard to explain a ball round from the 30-06 has ME but does it kill like a Nosler BT?
To even shoot at a deer with a .380 is a stunt with only a brain hit where the stinking little bullet might not reach it. You will not break the spine or kill with a lung shot. That is a stunt and not in the reputable hunter status. I expect the next will be the .25 auto will kill deer.
You can kill with a .22 between the eyes but if you deer hunt with a .22 your ethics do not belong in the field.
Shrapnel might have broken the law. States have limits to to the guns. I am sure a .380 is not legal.
Many of us are not PURE but to wound any animal with stupidity can't be forgiven. Waste is my concern, I could care less what you do to eat.
I am not enamored with a deer kill with a .380. It is an inch from suffering a slow death. Nobody except your tiny circle of followers (and I am quite sure it is tiny) cares even a little bit about who you get along with, what you can't forgive, or what you are enamored of. Still having trouble getting over yourself, I see.
Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.
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If you handle it like a bowhunter, using bait and a tree stand, don't fire at dusk, you'll probably be able to see him fall, even if you only use a pocket 9mm. Dont fire beyond 30 ft or so with such a little gun, and hit the spine. Bowhunters get much closer, all the time.
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If you handle it like a bowhunter, using bait and a tree stand, don't fire at dusk, you'll probably be able to see him fall, even if you only use a pocket 9mm. Dont fire beyond 30 ft or so with such a little gun, and hit the spine. Bowhunters get much closer, all the time. Yeah. That's it. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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cougars are shot out of trees, over dogs. They might well hang in the tree for a minute or more, after being lung shot by the .22 mag. Hunters like it that way, cause a powerful load might drop the cat into the dogs, while the cat still has some fight left in him. Good dogs cost many thousands of $. So what works for a dog man is not necessarily any sort of recommendation at all for someone hunting deer.
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With rare exceptions, you've got to have complete penetration for a hunting handgun rd, so that you get an exit wound/blood trail to follow. You DO need a certain minimum of muzzle energy in order to achieve that threshhold of performance. Where that minimum is, I neither know or care. I want the maximum, cause I go deer and hog hunting in order to test my defensive carry ammo on man-sized critters.
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I can't decide if the new guy is on crack or just retarded...
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With rare exceptions, you've got to have complete penetration for a hunting handgun rd, so that you get an exit wound/blood trail to follow. You DO need a certain minimum of muzzle energy in order to achieve that threshhold of performance. Where that minimum is, I neither know or care. I want the maximum, cause I go deer and hog hunting in order to test my defensive carry ammo on man-sized critters. How do your people loads perform on deer? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Doncha' just love when that's quoted as THE measure of lethality??
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Yep, never ceases to amaze.......
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I can't decide if the new guy is on crack or just retarded... Can't it be both?
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Tossed straight up, How about holding your Mark I in the left hand and tossing a bottle as far as you can with your right hand, grab the gun and break the bottle?
I shot through the holes in washers tossed in the air. proven with tape over the washers. Yeah, tough shooting so you can use stupid guns to hunt. You are a real stupid man to hunt with a gun that can hurt and not kill. Those that agree with you are not very smart either.
My slingshot has more then your stupid .380. Quoted for posterity. 
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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With rare exceptions, you've got to have complete penetration for a hunting handgun rd, so that you get an exit wound/blood trail to follow. You DO need a certain minimum of muzzle energy in order to achieve that threshhold of performance. Where that minimum is, I neither know or care. I want the maximum, cause I go deer and hog hunting in order to test my defensive carry ammo on man-sized critters. TFF. You just can't make this stuff up!! (Except if you are a personal friend of colonel Cooper and invented IPSC, along with inventing the internet.....)
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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How big were the washers?
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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They were actually semi truck tires...
Now a film showing this would be worth watching...
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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hell, I make Belleville washers that are a 10" ID, and 11" OD. Bet I can hit the center
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I know a guy that has killed a pile of cougars with a 22 mag.
Travis If I had to use a HG on a couger i would use my 480R... But What do you think about a .17 HMR?  Snake
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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