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Hodgdon just announced three new extruded IMR powders that are temperature resistant and contain a decoppering agent. The three powders (IMR 4166, 4451 and 7977) are roughly in the IMR4064, IMR4350 and Retumbo burn-rate ranges, and are made in Canada at the plant that makes other IMR powders.
I got to thoroughly test IMR4166 this summer, and it worked as advertised in a bunch of rounds from .204 Ruger to .45-70. Data for all three "Enduron" powders is now up on the Hodgdon website.
Don't know about pricing, but assume it will be in the same range as the other IMR powders.
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Dang, now I have new numbers to remember.
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Hodgdon just announced three new extruded IMR powders that are temperature resistant and contain a decoppering agent. The three powders (IMR 4166, 4451 and 7977) are roughly in the IMR4064, IMR4350 and Retumbo burn-rate ranges, and are made in Canada at the plant that makes other IMR powders.
I got to thoroughly test IMR4166 this summer, and it worked as advertised in a bunch of rounds from .204 Ruger to .45-70. Data for all three "Enduron" powders is now up on the Hodgdon website.
Don't know about pricing, but assume it will be in the same range as the other IMR powders. Sounds great. I wished they would just make a new improved IMR 4350 that is an extreme powder like H4350... I guess I'll have to try to remember another # as well...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I wish they would just focus that energy on catching up on production of existing powders...
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True!!! They need to get on the ball and start putting out more H4350!!!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I wish they would just focus that energy on catching up on production of existing powders... +1
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Faster I go, the behinder I get. Dang it, there's already 3-4 dozen powders out there I never tried.
I'm not as looney as I want to be.
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Dan, I'd be happy for the rest of my life just running RL 15 and H4350 in all of my rifles. I don't really need to have to remember more powder #'s..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Appreciate the heads up. Didn't see anything in the 338 Fed data to change what I'm already using, but interesting anyway.
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Wondering when if ever I will see a good selection of any powder, let alone new powders.. Thanks for the update one never knows.
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JB, thanks for the news. Did you find any really sweet loads as you played with it this summer? 4166 looks promising for my 7-08, and 7977 in a 270win may be good too.
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Thanks for the heads up. I too wish they would just make more of the stuff. A year ago I could barely find any powder but was still able to snag some at $32/lb. Now it is up to $40/lb and we are lucky to find a choice of one or two powders - IMR3031 and IMR4064 these days.
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Yeah, few weeks back I bought some H-4350, cost me $40.00 for one pound.
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Thanks for the heads up. I too wish they would just make more of the stuff. A year ago I could barely find any powder but was still able to snag some at $32/lb. Now it is up to $40/lb and we are lucky to find a choice of one or two powders - IMR3031 and IMR4064 these days. I've been seeing a lot of H414 as well..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Pistol powders seem to be really rare around my parts. Just about out of Bullseye... Rifle seem to be hit and miss. Available but not the exact recipe. Prices are up as well still under $40 per pound but who knows..
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Quite a bit of rifle powder at the tanner show this weekend, all for $28-$32 a pound.
Not a single can of pistol powder in the entire place.
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Sounds great. I wished they would just make a new improved IMR 4350 that is an extreme powder like H4350... I guess I'll have to try to remember another # as well... I think John just said that..... Hodgdon just announced three new extruded IMR powders that are temperature resistant and contain a decoppering agent. The three powders (IMR 4166, 4451 and 7977) are roughly in the IMR4064, IMR4350 and Retumbo burn-rate ranges, and are made in Canada at the plant that makes other IMR powders.
165 GR. SIE SPBT Starting Loads Maximum Loads Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure IMR IMR 4451 .308" 3.300" 53.3 2,658 49,100 PSI 57.4 2,858 59,200 PSI
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4756 is the one I am worried about.
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Dan, I'd be happy for the rest of my life just running RL 15 and H4350 in all of my rifles. I don't really need to have to remember more powder #'s.. Betcha we could get drunk sometime whilst extolling the virtues of such. 
I am..........disturbed.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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