Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Yet another Vaccine-Denier is getting big airtime on the Internet... again...

Yep. I wonder how many hundreds of cases of mild fever and upset stomach an ER Dr sees in a hospital like Presby per month.

CDC is the govt group who spent 7 mo getting ready for Ebola. How many docs were specifically trained in its early detection, for those who are critical of the handling of the Duncan case.

I bring this up realizing this thread is not dedicated to Ebola, but with respect to the fact it is touching on diagnostic accuracy.

I don't know about Dallas Presbyterian, but in my little ER in BFE west Texas gastroenteritis has been the number one diagnosis for the past 2 weeks.

It happens every year: 3 weeks after school starts there's a respiratory virus epidemic, and 6-8 weeks after schools starts there's a gastroenteritis epidemic. Happens everywhere, every school year.

It fer dang sure ain't Ebola.

But there are those who arent docs who would never be human to miss an early case of Ebola. If you don't believe it just ask them.

they are a waste of money. I get them, but I have never gotten the flu.

Ifin flu vaccines were so good why isn't the gooberment adding it into their chemtrails???

In fact, no one is suppressing the dumbass.

Dumbass suppressant.

I see we are back to discussing ebola.

Is this the same Dad you were speaking of when you advised folks that going to a doctor was the most hazardous thing they could do to their health?

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You're pulling him like Lawyer Dagget.

It's hard not to think you are awesome. Especially when you are being a smartass !

All I know is I'm not going to panic.

I have full PPE gear in my Ebola bug-out bag and plenty of canned sardines.

This is a perfect example of Doc's statement. Literally too stupid to live. Thanks for stepping up to the plate and hitting it out of the park.

Good grief, It's a risk every time you get in your car yet you do it daily. Seems so far you have survived.

Thanks for the reminder Doc. I need to get my flu shot ASAP!

I gotta get me a couple cans of that there Dumbass Suppressant. I hear it's on sale at Home Depot.

Serious ? for Doc: How important is the flu vaccine for a relatively healthy 51YO? I've never had one.

I like it

Amazing! You must just be lucky.

You don't need a fugging flu shot. You'll be fine.



Travis

Well, it depends on how you define "serious".

If "serious" means, "will getting a Fluvax ironclad-guarantee save my life this flu season?", well, the answer is Probably Not.

The benefits of this vaccine in one individual is totally unpredictable. You could end up with a severe adverse reaction, but the probability of that is extremely low. On the other end of the spectrum, you could end up being one of the 60% of the population that DOESN'T DIE if a true pandemic hits us and wipes out 40% of the population, as it did in some parts of the world in 1918-19. But the probability of THAT is also extremely low.

The reality is that your personal, direct benefit from getting a ful shot this fall is likely to be unnoticeable to you. If it prevents you getting a bad case of influenza, then you won't be sick in bed wishing you were dead for 5 days and then feeling like you'd been dragged through a knothole backwards by your scrotum for another 10-14 days. Since you won't be noticing those symptoms, you really won't have any perception of benefit. But if you DON'T get the shot and DO get those symptoms, you'll fer damn sure be wishing you HAD got the shot.

The benefits of having the majority of Americans get flu shots is best measured in terms of population benefits. In other words, if you and most of the people in your community get flu shots, fewer old people and fewer babies will die this winter, and the chances of a truly horrible pandemic sweeping through your community this year or in the next 10 years is reduced.

But like Hawkeye says, you pays your money and you takes your chances.

Note: none of the above advice applies to Flave, Shrapnel, the Poohbah, nor any other superhuman members of the 24HCF who I may have, without intending any offense or incurring any liability, legal or otherwise, neglected to mention by name in this disclaimer.

SACRILEGE! BLASPHEME! Bring in the thumb screws, Torquemada! Err, I mean, DocRocket.