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Why do you say that, John?

Pretty significant statement, considering the competition...

Temperature resistance AND a decoppering agent.

In just my shooting life time,when I really started loading my own ammo in 68 and what we have for choices today is mind boggling to say the least, I started with surplus WW-II 20mm Cannon Power call 4831 and IMR-4350 now gee you could no nuts or broke trying all the stuff we have available today, panic buying not with standing! IMR-4151 just may become my new favorite powder for loading my 7 x 57! Time will tell.

Slight topic change. Mule Deer, have you heard about availability of any of the RamShot powders? I don't get to the gun stores very often, but I haven't seen anything from them in a LONG time.

Ramshot powders around here have dried up !

The big problem with Ramshot rifle powders was a fire at the factory in Belgium more than a year ago. Everything's fixed now, but they're still catching up with orders. Their most popular rifle powder is TAC, so that's what's showing up first; the others will be coming along ASAP.

Of course, the panic buying since Obama's reelection hasn't helped any.

If any of you guys see True Blue on the shelf just leave it there. It sucks ass.



Travis

"Some of the older ball powders sold by Hodgdon also have long had decoppering agents". JB

Is H414 one of the powders with the de-coppering agent? Would you list which powders have it, please?

For Mule Deer
If what you have said then 4451 should be the better powder for my loading of the 358NM with 250 gr. bullets! Am I correct?
Thanks for your time. Cheers NC

Thanks MD!

It belongs there, right next to Competition.

It blows......

Now I'm curious: What are the specifics about why you and Travis don't like True Blue and Competition?

I'm not going to argue with you, but one of the things I do when writing articles about handloading various cartridges is try everything that seems, from published data, that it might be worth trying. While True Blue and Competition haven't stood out anymore than most powders, I've also gotten good results in several handgun loads with both, though I use Competition more for shotshell loading.

I should also probably point out that while both are Ramshot "brands," neither is made in the same factory (or even on the same continent) as the Ramshot rifle powders.

MD,

I think if you were to see Travis and Dutch say in person what they wrote about those powders you would suspect they had ulterior motives for those statements.

At least that's my impression, but nuanced communication such as sarcasm certainly isn't as easily discerned from forum posts as it is in person - the reason emoticons are sometimes useful.

Are you insinuating I could be selfish?



Travis

Ah, yes, "suck"ered again by Campfire goblins--and it's still a week to Halloween....

Never, Travis!

Who's to say where the line is drawn between self preservation and selfishness?

I'm looking forward to a day when powders are on shelves in abundance and we can point to these as the bad old days of scarcity.

True Blue is some good stuff. But please don't publish that in any articles.




Travis

At the local shop I like to explain which powders produce the worse accuracy and why.


Travis

Mule Deer, I shot up a couple of 4 (?) lb cans of Competition in 12 gauge target loads (pretty sure they were 1 oz loads). Of all the powders I have used for target loads over the years (Red Dot, Clays, Promo, Tightwad, American Select come to mind) it was my least favorite. Very dirty, inconsistent reports, that sort of thing.

Never used it in hand guns, and YMMV.