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Doc, from your second link: Fremdscham (the noun) describes the almost-horror you feel when you notice that somebody is oblivious to how embarrassing they truly are. Fremdscham occurs when someone who should feel embarrassed for themselves simply is not, and you start feeling embarrassment in their place. There's been a lot of this going around. Is there a vaccine? ![[Linked Image]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Whiskyhogmanay2010.jpg/200px-Whiskyhogmanay2010.jpg) (p.s. I am not an expert) I'm going to need a bigger glass.  Doc, thanks for the links. I had never heard of this, but have seen several examples lately. Ed
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Doc, I'm enjoying this read, I think. Doesn't bode well down the road
What�s going on here?
I fear we are witnessing the �death of expertise�: a Google-fueled, Wikipedia-based, blog-sodden collapse of any division between professionals and laymen, students and teachers, knowers and wonderers � in other words, between those of any achievement in an area and those with none at all. By this, I do not mean the death of actual expertise, the knowledge of specific things that sets some people apart from others in various areas. There will always be doctors, lawyers, engineers, and other specialists in various fields. Rather, what I fear has died is any acknowledgement of expertise as anything that should alter our thoughts or change the way we live.
What has died is any acknowledgement of expertise as anything that should alter our thoughts or change the way we live.
This is a very bad thing. Yes, it�s true that experts can make mistakes, as disasters from thalidomide to the Challenger explosion tragically remind us. But mostly, experts have a pretty good batting average compared to laymen: doctors, whatever their errors, seem to do better with most illnesses than faith healers or your Aunt Ginny and her special chicken gut poultice. To reject the notion of expertise, and to replace it with a sanctimonious insistence that every person has a right to his or her own opinion, is silly.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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It bodes well in the long run. Nature is an excellent culler of the ignorant and the stupid.
I've learned to be satisfied with informing and not saving.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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It bodes well in the long run. Nature is an excellent culler of the ignorant and the stupid.
Unfortunately, she has no sense of urgency.
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It bodes well in the long run. Nature is an excellent culler of the ignorant and the stupid.
I've learned to be satisfied with informing and not saving arguing with the ignorant dikheads. Fixed it. Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
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Ed is a regular Cowboy poet sometimes.... 
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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Yep, I rarely misunderstand Ed.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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Ed is a regular Cowboy poet sometimes....;) Boy, howdy!!
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RWE, urgency is lacking but overdue.
Doc, thanks for the links.
Instant experts lacking in training and experience are more dangerous than Ebola. Advancing knowledge requires effort as well as intellect.
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