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I'd like to recall back when I first logged onto the campfire forum. I remember thinking to myself how excited I was to be able to ask for advice or to relate some of my experiences with other fellow woodmen who have a similar love of the outdoors.

Well in short it all went rather well until I started to discover something that was a bit of a surprise.

The art of respectful internet debate! Sound simple! Yet not so easy for a beginner.

Yes in short order I continually found myself in rather heated debates with a number of fellas. Though I found myself slipping and not entirely adept to respectful internet debate there was however something that I did notice.

I have always had a great amount of respect for individual I would encounter in life that were able to teach me great things about moral value, respect, or right from wrong.

Often times what was learned was acquired more from example than words and I have always been one to watch for what I see to be good.

Recently here on the fire I found myself in a rather heated debate with a fella by the name of 2muchgun. Before long I found myself slinging insults and behaving in a manner or fashion that to be frank I became rather ashamed of.

Yes, this is just the internet and nobody knows who I am but the point is, I know who I am, what kind of folks I admire, and as a younger man who I want to be.

There are a very large number of folks on the campfire that I really admire and I'd like to say thank you for the example you set in respectfully debating. I admire that example and it doesn't go unnoticed.

I'd like to think that as a outdoorsman there is much more to the package than just knowing guns.

For myself its a way of life and includes the highest standard of moral conduct. It is the reason many of us teach our children this way of life.

I'm ashamed of my behavior the last few days and so have decided to work harder carry on the tradition of maral value and further to be an example that younger men and women can admire, by following the examples of respectful men I have come to admire both in everyday life and here on the fire.

My apologies to 2muchgun.

And please sir, a little less coffee.

Shod

Tikka's are still the turd polishers dream..







How ya holdin up?

Shod

Wow. Not used to seeing my name in lights

I hope you mean what you say. Apology accepted, and no hard feelings. I also hope you now understand why I did what I did.

I am as old school as they come. Yes I dog on people's rifles/scopes, but not on rifle/scope owners, personally. Yes I'm very opinionated. But not on things in which I've no experience.

I know when I'm being an azzhat, and do so purposefully. I'm not nearly as "angry" as some may see me. Quite the opposite, actually.

"Insulting" a rifle is not the same as insulting a person. I draw that line. And require the same of others. I'm not disrespectful, but not nearly as good at holding my tongue as some, when I feel others are being disrespectful or talking out their a$$. I'm not a punk, and don't like punks. Fortunately, most hunters/shooters are NOT punks.

In short, I'm quite certain I'd get along superfluously with 99% of all 24HCF members in person, even if they were packing Tikkas and A-Bolts....

Guns are guns, people are people.

Now hopefully this thread will soon die

I have found myself saying things to one or two individuals, not surprisingly, in the optics section that I'm not very proud of either. One individual in particular, "E", for whatever reason seemed to just get under my skin and I'm sure I looked silly and downright rude to him several years ago. I did, in an attempt to show a sign of remorse, apologize to him and even sent him some Leupold logo items (think it was a hat and a knife IIRC), but that doesn't excuse my behavior toward him. There are probably more, but so long as I stay away from the main "Hunters Campfire" section, I've found it much easier to control my comments.

I put E on ignore years ago. But not because I dislike him personally or feel that he is a bad person in any way. Just felt like he was a broken record. He would probably be hoot at a campfire and I would gladly welcome him....

Shodd, that's a rare display of humility.

Maybe it will catch on?



Maybe not.


Well done anyway.

+1

I've refrained for the most part of slinging insults for the 10+ years I've been here. Its not hard to do. When I get irritated, I normally do a post as a WORD document, read it before I copy/paste into a thread. Its way too easy to write and vent at the same time. "Send" seems to be make sense at the moment.

Well done.

A-Bolts? Talk about an overpriced POS.......





Just kidding. Please, no discussion.

Kumbaya... Ok. Wonderful. Glad you girls kissed and made up!

Gotta go, time to polish my turds.

We all saw the fight going on between you two. The best thing for the rest of us to do was stay out of it and not dog pile. It's a pretty honorable thing for shod to offer a humble apology and for 2muchgun to accept. I hope you guys can get past the insults and differences and put them behind you. We (campfire members) are a lot more alike than not.

Hi- as one who mildly called out on the optics forum yesterday (or so) I am pleased to no end. Really nice to see members shaking hands in the intended spirit of this site. I think you have just helped reaffirm the 'fire. Well done.

We got deer hunting in a week- best of luck to you both and to all. woo hoo

We got deer hunting in a week- best of luck to you both and to all. woo hoo [/quote]

That statement there just got me plum excited!

I'm headed off for deer hunting here next week.

Shod

Gee, humility and respect on the Fire. Who woulda thought?
Maybe there is hope for intelligent conversation after all.
Way to go, Gents.

The deer should start rutting here soon. I have one buck tag left.

Game on......

Hey Shodd--

Drinking iced tea and not coffee right now

Always a good idea to take the high road Shodd. Good on you for doing so.

I went with decaf this morning.

Shod

I read more then I post. only time I dogged someone on here was in a PM. The guy bought some Winchester Silver Tip bullets on this forum then two days later was trying to hock them for double the price on here. gave him a ration of SHI# for it.