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Savage Hog Hunter $469

Ruger American $359

With the Savage I can have it as a mr potato head and hang aftermarket parts off of it. Not so much with the Ruger.

Opinions please!

I hate it when people do this...butttt.....Sportsmans Warehouse has Remington 700 adl at $379.....

Granted you'd have to hang some stuff on it, but you're still $90 ahead of the Salvage

I'd take the Ruger for the twist.

Ruger over Savage. 1-8 Twist, better price.....

Take the Ruger for the twist and get on the list for Cotis mag extension so you can run ome longer bullets to take advantage of it.

No sportsman by me. Then there is that slow twist thing. My local Wally World doesn't have any 223 700s either.

I hear the rest of you on the twist being 8 instead of 9.

After handling the Ruger, I think I would go with a heavier barrel instead of the sporter. The action sure was slick though. Even the Savage was smooth. I have an action that is well broke in and didn't feel like these two.

The stocks on both are not confidence inspiring. Flimsy.

I keep thinking about the Savage because of the barrel swapping.

When Ruger American first started showing up I handled one in 308.Didnt like the stock so I walked away.Wish I had bought it.

Look at a Ruger American Predator.. I have handled several Hog Hunters and were not impressed with the feel of them. I know they will shoot.. but just didn't like the feel.

None within 50 miles of me.

Marlin XS7, there 1 in 9 twist however.

Shod

I don't know why anyone would give a damn about the 8 twist. the 9 will handle just about all the good hunting bullets anyway. The stocks on both suck. Ditto the goofy Glockesque triggers. I'd not buy either.

Because 'just about' don't just about cut it.

I have noticed there is quite a difference in the stocks of the three americans I have .
the 223 stock is quite a bit more flexible than other two.



the triggers I have no problem with.just push in the blade,till you feel the face of the trigger,then operate as normal.

oh,and I paid the same for all three of the americans $319 ea.
look on gun brokers for "northern firearms",in walker,mn.

This....have one that stays strapped to my 4 wheeler and shoots everything from 60-64 very well. It's been beaten to hell and still performs well

If you don't need the threaded barrel, Buds has the Trophy hunter package for $469. If you don't like the scope, you should be able to get $100 for it and be in it for $369. And if I'm not mistaken, Savage has a $75 rebate until nov 30th.

I'm fixing to buy a second one. The first one will put the 62gr ttsx into little bitty groups. My daughter has claimed it and will be getting it for Christmas. I'd give her a new one, but she has been stacking up the critters with this one.

KH,

Did you get the Marlin in TN. I've never seen one at any stores in Middle TN or at gun shows.

Who that the urge American was American it's just another cheap ass rifle to compete in a market ofor cheap as rifles.

Remington adl, xcr, compact tactical, howa, savage, rug m77 MI I used. There are alot of good choices in both new and used I don't believe rug we cheap American is one of them.

No, purchased from Buds. Think I paid $297

What barrels?

I am looking at a nicely priced non catalog Ruger Hawkeye SS, 20, synthetic. I just need to know the twist. 8,9 great,10 ok. I just don't want 12. I have an e-mail in to them to see if they will check it. Their material doesn't say. I suspect it is 9, if it was built in the last five or so years. Their 16" and 22" are 9. I just don't want a pig in a poke.

jack

If it's the 20" Ultra light .223 and it says Hawkeye on the receiver, it'll have 9" twist. They switched from 12 to 9 when they switched from 77Mkll to Hawkeye.

The more pertinent question might be, will I have a rifle that I can be proud of, and pass down to my kids and grandkids? You get what you pay for. I think at least get a Hawkeye with the 1:9 twist. No plastic please.......

If I had a 57 Chevy in my garage, I'd be pretty excited to pass it down to my kids. Doesn't mean its going to be my daily driver...

Theres a time and place for the economy rifles, IMO. Especially in 223, because they can use them while they are kids and you dont have to worry about all those dings they'll put in them.

Already have a Hawkeye.

Went with Mr. Potato head. I can pick up a RAR later on after I fondle a few. The trigger is very nice on Mr. Potato head and the bolt opens smoothly, not hard like others complain about.

Probably going to hang a 6.8 SPCII on it for next year. Need to get on a list because the lead time is rather long.

If this shoots like my other salvage 223 I will have no complaints what so ever. I am going to check the twist today and see what it really is. My other salvage is almost an 8.5" twist. Maybe I will get lucky again and this will also be that.

exactly! as much as I would like a Kimber in 223, the utility of the gun for me is no more than a fixed 4X with a 62TSX or 75 Swift S2 in the compact ruger model for looks like close to 7 bills. I cannot see the utility of a slower twist for a general purpose 223 nor spending $1500 + bucks to get a bolt action 223 set up at this stage of my life.