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Lead sled and a brake. Nothing says "get the phuqq outta Dodge" like that combo.

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one or the other does it for me....

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They're both OK,if you use a barrel donut.



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Friend of mine got one in 300WM. I really thought it would kick hard. That thing is a pussy cat. I was actually quite surprised at how mellow it is. Good stock design matters.

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Originally Posted by 16bore
Lead sled and a brake. Nothing says "get the phuqq outta Dodge" like that combo.


I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I totally agree. If you need a brake, I'd suggest stepping down to a lesser cartridge (say 308 or 30-06). Lead sleds are just plain wrong and I'd never put any of my rifles in one..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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All of you lead sled haters should just butt out.



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Go eat another barrel donut...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by Tarkio
[quote=huntsman22]WTF do you have to see hits?.....
WTF do you need a liteweight rifle for "Sitting at a bench shooting a 6 pound 300 WSM rifle all day" anyhow?


Personally, when I see the critters legs sticking up in the air, that's all I need. Never was as important to me, to see impact as it was results.......

enjoy...... [/quote

It's not really the hits I want to be able to see as it is prospective misses.

The bench shooting is to get very comfortable and reliable with a hunting rifle. I have plenty of paper punchers that are a joy to shoot for funsies.


I'm not going to claim to be the most knowledgable guy on the fire, not the most experienced, but I can confidently say I have owned and shot a bunch of rifles for a bunch of years. Maybe you have too, and maybe you have experience with a brake. If so, like said above, it's your money and your rifle. If not, I can say that I have owned rifles with brakes. They suck. Each one I have owned is either entirely gone, had the brake cut off, or been re-barreled. Brakes get no consideration from me on a 'normal' hunting rifle. 300WSM will do nothing a .308 or 30-06 won't. It just makes it a little easier to determine the up/down over distance. Up/down is the easy part. Doping the wind is the hard part.

Try that rifle without a brake. Don't expect a 223 from the bench. If you are shooting a 300WSM, you are planning on hunting. Becoming proficient means hitting your target under field conditions. Shoot 10 rounds (if the recoil is bad in your perception) from field positions and call it a day. If that's too much, get a 308 or a 7mm-08.

That noise generator on the end is far worse than recoil in my experience, and a waste of money.

BTW, nice rifle.


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You guys are the reason it is so hard to find Montana donors cheap. OP, brake away! And after you brake it I'll make you a reasonable offer for it.


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Make me an unreasonable offer and you can have mine..

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16bore,
What you got? Is $100 unreasonable enough?


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We are fortunate to have several ranges at my club. If there are shooters using the main, covered, high-power range and a fellow with a braked rifle shows up to shoot, he is politely invited to use the less popular side-range on the other side of the clubhouse. If that doesn't suit him, then he is firmly invited to wait until he is the only one left to use the main range, or he can return at 6:00 AM on another day when he is the only one there.

I don't want to be that guy, and I won't own a braked rifle after being exposed to them. Even using plugs and muffs, the cover/roof over our firing line makes braked rifles absolutely intolerable, even several stations away down the line.


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Originally Posted by 40O
16bore,
What you got? Is $100 unreasonable enough?


Must be a typo....

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I agree with everyone else.

Don't get a brake! If you think you need a brake, get a rifle chambered in a round you feel comfortable shooting.

But somebody needs to call out stupidity like this;

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300WSM will do nothing a .308 or 30-06 won't


More is always more, and less is always less.



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Muzzle breaks have a perfectly good function. I had a 30-378 years ago with a break. At the range in winter, I only needed two or three rounds to clear the snow from the sloping range roof overhang. I can only imagine how efficient a 50BMG would be!


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Originally Posted by WhelenAway
I agree with everyone else.

Don't get a brake! If you think you need a brake, get a rifle chambered in a round you feel comfortable shooting.

But somebody needs to call out stupidity like this;

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300WSM will do nothing a .308 or 30-06 won't


More is always more, and less is always less.




I'll play.

155 Amax Hornady maximum book velocity:
300WSM 3250
30-06 3000

Translates to:

Drop (100yd zero)
300WSM at 300yds = 30-06 at 280yds (-9.1")

Drift (10 mph)
300WSM at 300yds = 30-06 at 269yds (2.9")

Velocity
300WSM at 300yds = 30-06 at 193yds (2588 FPS)

Energy
300WSM at 300yds = 30-06 at 193yds (1937 FPE)

So I reckon a fella could say a 30-06 is a 300WSM +/- 25 yards or 107 yards, depending on which numbers float your boat.










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I admit I didn't read every line in the thread so maybe this was covered. Apologies. I am not a fan of muzzle brakes but have one on a 416 BUT there is no reason to hunt with it on, just get a thread cap and take the darn thing off. You never feel recoil shooting at game and if you want to shoot a lot at the bench the brake will help, so will a lead sled so will a 308. None of this is need its want and if OP wants it then he should have it. MTCs


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Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter
I admit I didn't read every line in the thread so maybe this was covered. Apologies. I am not a fan of muzzle brakes but have one on a 416 BUT there is no reason to hunt with it on, just get a thread cap and take the darn thing off. You never feel recoil shooting at game and if you want to shoot a lot at the bench the brake will help, so will a lead sled so will a 308. None of this is need its want and if OP wants it then he should have it. MTCs
Yep, brake it and forget it. And use a sled if you like them.
And the thread cap works perfect for hunting situations.
Best thing I ever did (equipment-wise) is pick up a brake-equipped Kimber .308 for the wife. She actually enjoys shooting sessions now, and her accuracy is fantastic because of it.

The know-it-alls here won't be anywhere around when you or yours use and hunt with your rifle.

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Originally Posted by WhelenAway
I agree with everyone else.

Don't get a brake! If you think you need a brake, get a rifle chambered in a round you feel comfortable shooting.

But somebody needs to call out stupidity like this;

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300WSM will do nothing a .308 or 30-06 won't


More is always more, and less is always less.



Please educate me. What will a 300WSM do that a 308 or 30-06 won't? All I can I think of is get you a little further point blank range over a .308. Very little over a 30-06, and then it depends on the load.

What it might do, especially with a brake, is cause more hearing loss, or more flinch for those sensitive to recoil. It will not kill anything 'more dead'.

I'm all ears...


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