Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
Now I have to come up around this trunk floor radius.
I got the can opener out and pealed back the trunk floor skin. removed a chunk that had rust holes and pealed a solid piece open for more room to work from the top side.
I cut the thin brace metal back to solid edges, prepped for welding and fabbed a tricky piece of channel which I notch cut for the radius and then I fit it from inside the trunk. It worked out pretty well.
Tomorrow I will fab the ends for this mid trunk floor brace and install them from inside the trunk. Then I can patch the 4 or 5 Rusted areas in the trunk floor skin and move on to the next problem area.
Amazing skills ND. Glad to see you doing what you love. Thanks for the visit yesterday BTW. Joe still has the perma-grin from his first venison harvest.
It serves the purpose of allowing us old lazy asses to live vicariously through someone who actually has enough gumption and talent to actually do something.
We can sit in the chair,...pull up the thread, look at the pics and say, "Yeah!,..I woulda done it just like that too!", while nodding our heads enthusiastically.
^^^^^ I'm still working on the old part (not much longer) but I have the lazy ass part down pat.
I love the fact that I can go for a short drive and see this magic happen first-hand. The threads make it all the better. It gives us something to inspire about.
I've done a lot of other stuff on the car, I just don't have pictures of every step, lol.
Some basic skin grafting:
This is another common 64 galaxie problem area. A body brace at the rocker level between the back edge of the door and the rear tire, traps dirt against the inside of the body skin and it rusts through.
both sides needed this same patch, and one fender.
The welds were completed and sanded smooth of course, no picherz...
Sweet, I have been helping a friend with his 69 mustang fastback on and off for the last few months.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
ND, love this thread. 64 Ford Galaxie 500XL like this was my High school and first car when married. Still kick my self for having to sell it. 390 and 4 speed. What stories that car could tell! Keep us up to date!
In 1964 I saw one of those at the drag races. It ran like it had a 427 so a few of us went to check it out. He was running a built 289 in the low twelves! Of course we were quite curious how he ran so hard. He said, "You rev it to seven thousand at the line and dump the clutch. When the tach hits nine grand you shift."
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In 1964 I saw one of those at the drag races. It ran like it had a 427 so a few of us went to check it out. He was running a built 289 in the low twelves! Of course we were quite curious how he ran so hard. He said, "You rev it to seven thousand at the line and dump the clutch. When the tach hits nine grand you shift."
One of the best, coolest threads to come along in a good while! I will be watching this one, for sure.
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interesting thread for sure. My younger brother is having a 1963 built up in Michigan where he lives. Body off the frame, all new parts, new electrical, 4 wheel disc brakes, 390 CID 335 HP engine, factory four speed, buckets. Should be ready in a few months. He traded in his 1964 Fairlane Thunderbolt with the 427 and tri power.
Brings back memories Dave.....grandfather gave me a 63 1/2 Ford Galaxy 500 XL when I was a teenager. Royal Burgundy with white leather bucket seats and the Thunderbird 390 engine! Spinner hubcaps to boot!
Let me tell you......as a Senior in High School owning a car like that was a pleasure.....that huge backseat area got even bigger when the bucket seats just flipped up out of the way.....
Marvelous, simply marvelous. I wish I had those kinds of skills.
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How are you treating the rust on the back side of the panels and inaccessible locations?
It kind of depends on the location. I use a combination of products. Rust inhibitor products (paints) such as por15, eastwood rust encapsulator, rust bullet etc get used quite a lot under the car and inside these structure/support areas. I also use 2K high solids epoxy primer and in contact areas that get factory type spot welds (pinch welds) I use a zinc rich primer that can be welded through.
It pops and snaps when you start the weld but it does work and that way you have a coating on the steal in those sandwiched metal areas between and around spot welds/plug welds.
Dave, the guy building my brother's 63 Galaxie is well connected with that small group of folks that have Ford muscle parts. Body parts, engines and engine parts,( SOHC engines and some Boss 429s, as well as a bunch of 427s). Electrical wiring harnesses, gauges, factory dashboards, suspension stuff, rear ends, transmissions.......... If you get jammed up sourcing a specific part, let me know.
This one has not been restored, but it has been very well maintained. Belongs to a fellow I know here in town. It's a 390, with automatic. Everything on it works perfectly, and it's his daily driver.
My wife's uncle has a 1967 Galaxie 500 coupe fastback with a 390 in it. He bought it when he got back from Vietnam. It now has about 65,000 miles on it and he never took the plastic off the seats. The rear seats have never been sat in. It's never been outside his county. Crazy. I'm hoping to keep that car in the family. It looks like this one but in green with black top.
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Great thread on a great car. My brother had a '63 Galaxie convertible with the 352 two barrel, dual exhaust, buckets and automatic. Sweet ride.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard
Had a bud with one. We put a set of 352 heads on his 390 and it was a screamer. Had a c6 trans and a posi in the rear,it did some large smoke screams when wanted.
As for small block Ford engines,to me there is none better when it is wound up. Put a ignition block switch to cut spark when shifting and watch the flames come out when you are doing fast runs at the drag strip.
Don't ya love that Minnesota Rust? I don't miss it one damned bit...
There is a bone yard down in Annandale MN that is 400 plus acres and is full of really cool old cars, minus all the rust on them...use to do a lot of business with them back when I lived in MN...
Cool project tho Dave...always liked those early to mid 60s Fords, Galaxies, XL500s etc...some darn cool engines with some high HP available...
by 68 tho, they had become kinda milk toast in the cool factor...
This one has not been restored, but it has been very well maintained. Belongs to a fellow I know here in town. It's a 390, with automatic. Everything on it works perfectly, and it's his daily driver.
beautiful, thanks for the lead on parts too.
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Holman-Moody Nascar.
Dave - this is what I was talking about on facebook when I posted that picture of the Galaxie with the cammer in it.
A new arrival to the shop put the work on hold about mid day.
The mach 1 was on the lift for a while so I could check it out and show the owner what we are going to have to do to it.
We have to do a LOT. lol!
It's been "fixed" before. With a gas axe and some angle iron scraps... sigh.
So, I get to un-fix before I can fix properly on that one. But I'm still super excited to have a 69 Mach 1 in the shop. They have a 390 for it, but the VIN shows it's a W code car, originally a 351 I believe.
that is awesome dave, I'm happy you get to do what you love. I had a 62 falcon when I was in the Navy, sold it before moving home in 08. engine purred like a kitten but the body needed work. wish I still had it.
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My phone is not downloading any pictures. I will have to check this tonight. My brother had a 64 Galaxie in high school. It had a 352, dual exhaust, 4 barrel carrb, 3 on the tree with overdrive.
interesting thread for sure. My younger brother is having a 1963 built up in Michigan where he lives. Body off the frame, all new parts, new electrical, 4 wheel disc brakes, 390 CID 335 HP engine, factory four speed, buckets. Should be ready in a few months. He traded in his 1964 Fairlane Thunderbolt with the 427 and tri power.
Holy Crap he traded off a T-Bolt...
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interesting thread for sure. My younger brother is having a 1963 built up in Michigan where he lives. Body off the frame, all new parts, new electrical, 4 wheel disc brakes, 390 CID 335 HP engine, factory four speed, buckets. Should be ready in a few months. He traded in his 1964 Fairlane Thunderbolt with the 427 and tri power.
Holy Crap he traded off a T-Bolt...
yeah, it was just too much for a daily driver. Lots of horsepower, a tricky automatic trans, no amenities. Living in Michigan, it did not do well in ice and snow, and spent half the year in the garage. Boy did it run though.
Wes's TBolt is greatly detuned, but still has more than enough juice. The fellow building the '63 Galaxie is trading for the Fairlane, and throwing in $6K to boot.
I love me a Galaxie but man, I can't wait until you start that fastback! I also want to see what you have to "unfix."
Lots of structural fixing to un-fix. frame rails scabbed together, floor pans poorly fit, Wheel house, trunk extension panels home made, not done very nicely.
It was prob all done around 25 yrs ago. There are nice repop panels and frame rails made for the car these days. I'll have it tore down pretty far to get it right. I'll need to reference chassis drawings to get it all straight.
dave i don't think that old that had that Holman Moody 427 cobra jet ever sold it.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
It serves the purpose of allowing us old lazy asses to live vicariously through someone who actually has enough gumption and talent to actually do something.
We can sit in the chair,...pull up the thread, look at the pics and say, "Yeah!,..I woulda done it just like that too!", while nodding our heads enthusiastically.
"Old Lazy Asses!"Yeah Right I've seen some of the work that's come out of your shop in your spare time posted here over the years and you definitely don't fit that bill.
OK...it's been long enough....you getting this car finished before Christmas?
Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other the person to die ......
"When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything you gave me."
You just need to make up some paint that smells like corn or apples and they will come to you while you work.....you can thank me later...grin
Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other the person to die ......
"When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything you gave me."
The shock crossmember on the project car had been gas axed and poorly modified. So I cut the good crossmember out of the parts car (top) and changed it out with the "modified one" (bottom)
here's some of the handiwork from a previous owner.
Yeah, I find some neat stuff. Nothing of value yet, for the mist part its mouse piss soaked seat stuffing wadded into the most interesting places imaginable. I pulled a 3 spd trans today off the project car and the bell housing was stuffed full of mouse filth. I mean even the clutch is wadded full, freaking gross.
I drove that car before tearing it down, would have never known the clutch was wadded full of mouse house insulation.
You could toss those mouse reengineered products into various places around your property to save them some work. Cars, trucks, garages, ice houses and the places could be endless!
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Undecided. I have some cast blast paint for it but I can't bring myself to painting over the factory stencil and other paint markings from 50 yrs ago. I may just clean it a bit better and shoot a coat of matte clear on it to preserve the factory appearance.
But the shifter mech has been gone through, cleaned and greased, super smooth.
The belly of the beast has been blasted and black epoxy coated.
decided i'm going to sell the hemi parts i have and build a monster 12 valve cummins to put in my polara.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
In 1964 I saw one of those at the drag races. It ran like it had a 427 so a few of us went to check it out. He was running a built 289 in the low twelves! Of course we were quite curious how he ran so hard. He said, "You rev it to seven thousand at the line and dump the clutch. When the tach hits nine grand you shift."
A well built hi-po 289 is no joke.
Those 260/289 Fords were a real suprise as stock units. The factory built HP289's really did not require tach's........just shift when the ears itched. The advertised 271 hp was somewhat under rated. Very strong engine! I've had several.
The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first.
I was talking to a guy back in the day who had a HP289 Mustang that surprised a lot of people street racing. I asked him what rpms he was turning when he shifted from first to second. He said, I don't know, "when I'm in front."
when I read Dave's car rebuild threads, I just hear ole George in my head
Dave's bad to the bone
ACME auto werks is up and runnin
happy for you Dave, but have you thought about welding an outdoor furnace into that cavernous truck?
yaknow just so you don't miss the old gig too bad (grin)
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
Aren't the band-aids supposed to be blue to match your tape?
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I was able to swing by and take a little look at ND's magic today. Glad to see talent like that make good on his skills. Good to see that ND isn't being held back anymore. Keep going forward bud!
Awesome thread Dave. Takes me down memory lane as my first car was a classic brown 69 ford galaxie. God that thing sucked some gas! But I sure had a lot of fun in it! My granny had a white 68 that would FLY! I think I saw my life flash before my eyes a few times. My uncle and I called it the white ghost. Keep up the good work restoring a classic ride!
Well, it's on to body work. I'm leveling panels today, I hope to be in primer on Saturday.
I received a few new blocks this week, a couple of them are these AFS blocks, this one is a 21" block, I have a 16" just like it and a couple of new dura blocks, one round and one semi round. These big blocks area really nice for leveling a 7' long quarter panel.
They have a spring steel face for PSA paper and they have 3 removable spring rods so you can adjust the amount of flexibility you need.
It's not fun, but it's going well.
I'll leave the car on the lift until I get both quarters blocked. It's nice to be able to adjust the height of the work.
I just don't have the patience for sanding and fairing, especially when I get a little impatient, go a little too far or with too rough of grit, and am back where I started, or a bit further back.
That and I don't think any power tool is going to give as good a finish as a good long board as the power tools don't give you the feedback a board does.
Excellent progress and some real tough, grit it out work. I got rid of my last project, heart just wasn't into it and my partner was sucking the life out of me.
Little brother a bit south of you just picked up a 50 Hudson Pacemaker...kind of has that lead sled look.
Still lots of 70ish pickups out here if you want me to round you up a semi load!
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There are lots of little fixes that go un noticed on these cars but they are all important. Window function is one of them. The side window mechanisms were a mess on this car, I've rebuilt much of that already but just yesterday I did a technical "how to" for a guy with a wing window problem over on a ford forum. I had the same problem he was asking about, it was on my "to do list" so I went through one of my wing window actuators for him with pictures yesterday.
Here, check it out.
There's the loose plate that's causing the problem. Someone forced the crank at some time in the past 50 years and the mechanism grenaded inside the door. The worm gear drives the retention plate off the end of the housing.... "and the dang window never did shut right after 1971 when bubba ternt the crank too hard..."
in this case it's so loose I can swing it to the side.
With the plate not in place like it's supposed to be, the worm gear can just screw itself out the back side of the housing rather than to deliver rotating force to the wing window shaft.
I cleaned things up and packed the gear housing with new grease.
I also greased the inside of the plate where it contacts the and locates the end of the worm gear.
Now for the rivet boss, it's still a bit flared out so the plate wont just slip back over the top of it. So, we'll have to reduce it's OD a bit.
I used a regular slip jaw pliers. I squeezed (gently) on the OD of the rivet and rotated the pliers. I'm trying to squeeze the rivet boss back into a round shape without removing material from the OD. I did get a bit of shaving action on the OD due to the serrations on the pliers.
Before staking, it's a good idea to clamp the plate to the housing with a bit of pressure, reasonable pressure, you don't want to crush or break anything.
Notice I'm clamping to the housing, not to the worm gear shaft.
Next I took the assembly over to a vise. I grabbed an old axle stub end for use as a rivet buck. You can use the corner of the vice or what ever you can make work.
I'm resting the opposite side of my rivet face against the "buck"
Now it's just a matter of recreating that flared/expanded rivet shape. I'm going to tighten both rivets while I'm at it. I actually started with the pick end of one of my body hammers, because it happened to be within arms reach and it had the right shape.
I would suggest starting with a blunt tipped centering punch to get the initial flare shape started. Then you can finish off the job with a small ball peen hammer.
There ya go.
I'm tellin ya, that thing is silky smooth now, it's going to work like new.
I've worked with this man on some very large and detailed projects over the years and "detail" is an understatement. There wasn't a screw unturned before we brought the project to the powers to be.
Sooooo glad to see ND unchained. I hope that wasn't copyrighted.
The fact that you took the time to fix something 99.9% of classic car owners and even car lovers would have lived with is why I am 100% sure you're going to be a success in your business.
The fact that you took the time to fix something 99.9% of classic car owners and even car lovers would have lived with is why I am 100% sure you're going to be a success in your business.
Well done Dave.
This in spades. Makes me embarrassed to admit how many of those little things I let go instead of fixing!
"Unchained". Good descriptor.
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The fact that you took the time to fix something 99.9% of classic car owners and even car lovers would have lived with is why I am 100% sure you're going to be a success in your business.
Well done Dave.
Right on!
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There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
Yep, she didn't ask for the engine bay or engine detailing. I figure its a decent Xmas present. Well, I don't know if its decent, but its a present. Lol.
It sure as hell ain going to hurt the value of this buggy.
As for puzzles..... No, never was much for puzzles. I was always too busy tearing something apart to see how it worked.
I've been squeezing the trigger on this old war horse on the right for 2 decades. Its sprayed all kinds of primers, enamel, laquer and urethane single stages, base coats, clears... I have better guns I guess, but I sure like that old siphon rig.
So, I decided to set one up with a modern cup system and see how I like it. Should be sweet for flipping upside down for rockers and other tricky areas.
Wow, even have an ape, I mean apprentice for the bull work. Super Dave, just super.
Hey T, check out the pics of that ape boy. Notice the hoist arms are off the floor? He's evolved to the point if using a car hoist to lift himself high enough to sand the roof of a car. Lol!
Wow, even have an ape, I mean apprentice for the bull work. Super Dave, just super.
Hey T, check out the pics of that ape boy. Notice the hoist arms are off the floor? He's evolved to the point if using a car hoist to lift himself high enough to sand the roof of a car. Lol!
I noticed that and whether it was you or him, he has been taught well. If he ever has the urge to sling dirt with an excavator or plow over trees & houses with a dozer, I have a spot for the young chap. A fine young man you have raised there ND.
The cars are looking great now that I've tossed out my plug.
"ND Unchained" (I'm working on a copyright) will never be out of work.
What he does do is awesome, but he's not unchained until he starts warming up the motors too.
ND is a motorhead and very capable of giving one of these great old muscle cars a great tune (or complete overhaul). The detail doesn't stop with the bodywork. That said, I'd love to build up a BBF or SBF for one of his rigs. I love me some displacement but have zero talent for making a ride look good.
My first car was a 64 Galaxie.It was white with red interior, 4 door 390 2 bbl with an FMX automatic. Loved that car. I graduated to a 1968 Torino with a hopped up 302 a few years later. That was a great car too, but I still miss the Galaxie
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Nothing too exciting today, just a guy on a roller stool, with a bunch of sanding blocks, carefully shaving off everything that isn't a perfectly straight 64 ford.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard
nothing special about the engine. we just cleaned it up and painted it to make it look better under the hood. put a bunch of new gaskets and a few other do-dads on it. It's a 352 FE 4 barrel, compression test looked decent, it ran good before we pulled it, it was just ugly and was starting to leak a little.
So we pulled it, cleaned it up, painted it black as a 64 engine would have been. our blue for the tins is too dark, I realize this but we're going with it. (gives us something to tinker with later)
Changed the pilot bushing on back side of the crank yesterday, waiting for the correct clutch kit to arrive. They sent me a diaphragm style pressure plate and I want a lever style for this one. Should be here today.
we plan to install the clutch, pressure plate, then bell housing, starter, then drop it in the car before bringing the trans to the bell housing.
I'm redoing some of that red stuff today
didn't go the way I wanted it to. I followed the instructions on the can which said no reduction required. I printed the TDS for the products yesterday and they read quite different than the directions on the cans.