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Originally Posted by cwill
I am considering having one put together. I own a 25/06 and 30/06 and my pea brain is telling me this will be the best of both worlds, could someone please enlighten me with some real world experience and numbers.



Having a rifle built just the way you want it is a fine idea.

The cartridge it's chambered for is of lttle importance.

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I'm running the 168 ABLR 2970 fps in a 26 inch Brux 9 twist ...I get about 2930 fps with the 160 AB..

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Originally Posted by Aviator
I'm running the 168 ABLR 2970 fps in a 26 inch Brux 9 twist ...I get about 2930 fps with the 160 AB..


How much does that 26" barreled rifle weigh with what scope?

For a rifle I carry the Featherweight size is ok and for 'magnums' with long barrels that I don't carry far then more weight is tolerable.

I have magnums in heavier rifles which are optimum.

Another optimum rifle is the Kimber Montana 7mm WSM which should run with a 280 ai shooting 168's.

It's not easy to believe the pressures with the smaller 280 case are good as it's capacity is less than the WSM's.

Mine weighs 7#, 4oz with it's 4-12 Leu.

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Kimber Model 8400 Montana 7mm WSM
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IIRC that one has been gone for ages.

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Mine has a VX6 2x12..7lbs 7oz ..

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Originally Posted by 257heaven
Just loaded up some rounds last night for a new 280AI. Had some fire-formed brass. FL resized them and used Rel 22 with 162 Gr. A-Maxes. Expect to get around 2,800 FPS out of the 23" barrel (per quickload).

I did fill a case with H20 and weighed it just to make sure of capacity. Quickload had 74 grs water and I measured 72.5 grains. Easy fix.

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Who's shooting 162's in a Montana 280AI and how are they doing?

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Not a Montana but 162s fly great in mine as well. Look to IMR 7828 and RL 17 for accuracy and speed.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
I had two 280 Ackleys. If I did it again I would just go 280. It actually has more cool factor now because nobody likes it anymore. If you need more than a 280, then probably time to step up to 7mag.


Agreed. I have been trying to wrap my head around the 280 AI for over 30 years, ever since my old pal on here RinB had both the Ackley and RCBS version. He seemed unimpressed and so was l...since l was stomping 280 improved velocities with about any 7RM l loaded for. So l never blew the coin to bother with it.

I hardly consider it an essential item for any active BG hunter. Other stuff works as well
or better. The cartridge is a favorite of rifle nuts on here but in a fairly active lifetime of BG hunting l have yet to see a single one afield anywhere...but someone must be using it!

The 280 AI is a "lesser included" in a standard 7 rem mag. I also get the same ballistics from my FF loads (low pressure) for the 7mm Mashburn in the same action and barrel length with greater reserves for heavier bullets.

Those here will have to forgive me if the cartridge causes me to yawn.


I agree. I have owned and hunted successfully with the 7mm-08, 7X57, 280 Rem, 280 AI, 7mm Rem Mag, and 7mm MSM and the biggest waste of time, and smoke and mirrors in the bunch is the 280 AI. i now hunt almost exclusively with the 280 Remington.

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What were your expectations of the Ackley ?

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I thought the 223AI would straighten my slice and make my wiener bigger, but that wasn't the case.

Damn these Internet rumors.

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3150 with a 140 ttsx works just fine in mine.
First elk when it was first built.
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2nd elk with it after custom stock and done.
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1st oryx.
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I like mine alot. Wouldn't change anything.
Don't care to trim, so for me, AI is the way to go.

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I only started getting 4-5 mpg more on my truck, so it was a big let down for me as well.

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The problem is the 280AI can defy the laws of physics.

I didn't think this would be a problem until I learned of the potentially side effects this can produce.

For instance....one time when I fired my 280AI it actually slowed down the rotation of the planet. I believe the reason this happened was to make the bullet appear to be traveling faster in relation to the rotation of earth.

When I figured out what was really going on I was a little pissed! The slowed rotation was throwing my chronograph off and it was giving me a faulty reading.

I had always heard there is no free lunch and now I knew it was true!

Damn you Bobin! (grin)

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Originally Posted by 16bore
I thought the 223AI would straighten my slice and make my wiener bigger, but that wasn't the case.

Damn these Internet rumors.


Hard to look for an increase when you turn to something already really small (223AI) to begin with. grin

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Originally Posted by Shodd
The problem is the 280AI can defy the laws of physics.

For instance....one time when I fired my 280AI it actually slowed down the rotation of the planet. I believe the reason this happened was to make the bullet appear to be traveling faster in relation to the rotation of earth.


Huh. I noticed that too. I thought it unrelated to the awesomeness of the cartridge. But now I know for sure.


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Originally Posted by RDFinn
I only started getting 4-5 mpg more on my truck, so it was a big let down for me as well.


You must not be living right. My super duty now only needs water (or I can just use dirt in a pinch) to run and it tows better than when I had to spring for diesel. This all in exact synchronicity with receipt of my 280AI!

I'm thinking about getting another one done just to see what happens. Not sure that I could handle it.

In my experience, 280AI = Chuck Norris!





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Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by RDFinn
I only started getting 4-5 mpg more on my truck, so it was a big let down for me as well.


You must not be living right. My super duty now only needs water (or I can just use dirt in a pinch) to run and it tows better than when I had to spring for diesel. This all in exact synchronicity with receipt of my 280AI!

I'm thinking about getting another one done just to see what happens. Not sure that I could handle it.

In my experience, 280AI = Chuck Norris!



Dude....your truck was not going faster!

The earth was spinning slower making it appear that way!

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