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What if I tell Travis that he can come hunt Mule deer and all he has to do is bring Beer and lots of ammo...?

The optics forum is sooooooooo entertaining . Yet strangely irritating at the same time.

I like they way you think. Where do I sign up?

You have to make a 750 yard shot in 20mph+ wind and hit a beer can first. I've already seen Travis do it.

Tanner

Offhand.

Piece of cake. I'll hit a beer can before and after

Just wait until he closes the gate during feeding time, then plunk him....

Most guys would chit themselves if they'd spend time just shooting groups at 200 yards in chit wind/conditions and hold "zero". Then you can see what voodoo is all about.

Not sure what you mean....

Something like that......

My buds run when there's a gnats fart breeze.

It will separate the men from the boys in short order....

I certainly wouldn't bet against you at 300 with no wind, that's for sure.

And I'd watch you, being a wind doping expert, make a fool out of yourself.

Travis said he was a wind doping expert?

Did he use the word "Uber"?

Link?

David

Make sense now?

That'd afford you an opportunity to know how we feel when we read your posts.

Thanks for deeming me a wind doping expert by the way.



Travis

UBER posterity.



Travis

Nice job avoiding answering my question. I consider it a compliment that not everyone likes, or agrees with me.

Interesting thread...l read the whole thing. Thanks to those who took the time to explain the differences and like almost any subject on the CF opinions vary.

I liked Alan's approach finding value in each system depending on distances and circumstances, including the reticle compensation. I have done a hill of beans worth of turret twisting. The thoughts of a turret that will move by accident makes my blood run cold.

I am inclined to find the shortest distance between two dots since too much complication tends to distract in the heat o f shooting animals. I solved some elk killing problems years ago once l fiscovered that the bottom post of a 4x Leupold corresponded pretty exactly at 600 yards to the trajectory of 180 gr or 160 bullets driven 3100 fps from a 300 or 7mm magnum. Crude but effective since it helped me drop a few between 450-500 yards.

4-5 years ago l also figured out that a 162 Amax at app 3200 would follow the dots on a 6-36 leupold with LR reticle to 500 and the tip of the post landed the bullets about an inch above. 6" circle at 600. This may not be as sophisticated as the turrets and limits options somewhat but in 40 years l have been unable too find an animal l really anted further than that.

My own personal opinion (which l don't care to debate) is that no one but hardenef competitive riflemen have much business making wind calls over one MOA on unwounded BG animals at distances much past 400 yards. It's too tricky and unlikely to result in the solid chest hits we all seek. There is no shame in holding off for another day

My personal opinion is that I spun these M1s and dropped a doe at 625yds as if hit by a bolt of lightning shot out of Thor's ass........

Oh yea, what was your question? $10K on an 800yd shot in 20mph winds? No JG, I don't gamble. It's a sin.


Travis