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Looking to go mule deer hunting next year for the first time, the 1st of what I hope will become numerous western hunts - mule deer, antelope, elk. I would like to buy a pair of high quality binoculars that will be suitable for same, thinking Zeiss Conquest HD up to top Alpha glass quality.

This is NOT a which brand / model question - I've looked some and have some preferences, but will explore further later.

The question is magnification and objective size. I have several pair of $2-600 binoculars from pocket binoculars to 10x50. Of those, the pair that I like the most (and use the most) are my el cheapo Leupold Yukon 6x36's. The hunting I've done I find the 6x36's bright and easiest to use.

I don't see too many people talk about using low powered optics like this for open western country. Most commonly I see 10x42's and bigger magnifications/larger objective sizes. I was leaning more towards a pair of 8x42's, but curious on others opinions about binocular size/magnification for open country hunting.

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I've used a bunch of binoculars out west for elk and mule deer hunting and prefer a 10-40 or 10-42.




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10x42 is the overall favorite.

I use Swarovski 8x30s and prefer them. I can see horns on critters so far away that I can't get to them on the same day. I figure its all I need to know, and the 8x30s are lighter...


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I took a good set of 12x42's my first trip and for me it was too much, to hard to distinguish the details without some sort of support. Went to 10x42 for my next trip and was much happier, I've also spent a fair amount of time behind my buddies alpha glass in 8x42 and could be very happy with those.
I think once the replies start rolling in it's going to be apparent that what works best for "you" is going to be best determined by you spending some time behind different sets.





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Originally Posted by duxndogs
I took a good set of 12x42's my first trip and for me it was too much, to hard to distinguish the details without some sort of support. Went to 10x42 for my next trip and was much happier, I've also spent a fair amount of time behind my buddies alpha glass in 8x42 and could be very happy with those.
I think once the replies start rolling in it's going to be apparent that what works best for "you" is going to be best determined by you spending some time behind different sets.





I appreciate all of the comments so far.

In general, I'm more inclined to lower power optics. Question is mainly, am I handicapping myself by using an 8x? Based on the responses so far, it would appear the answer is no.

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I wouldn't say your necessarily "handicapped", but when I head out to do open country hunting, I immediately reach for 10x42's......and a tripod......and a spotter. That being said, I have fallen in love with the 8x32 Cabelas Euro HD's.


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No, not at all...providing that they are really good quality glass. Theres a lot of good stuff out there now. My Swarovskis are 20 years old and they were the bees knees when I bought them. Nowadays some $400 binocs compare favorably to them ( my old ones...not the new ones...)
Also as Im sure you are aware you get into a law of diminishing returns with optics pretty quickly. $400 binocs are 100% better than $150 binocs.
After that $600 binocs are about 10 % better than the $400 pair, and for another 10% it will cost you $1200

I haven't even looked at binocs seriously in 5 years so I can't give a real recommendation . I hope JB chimes in because he's up on the latest and greatest.


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You have to remember that "western hunting" covers a lot of different terrain. The ideal for one situation may not be ideal for another. Also there are lots of ways to hunt. If I'm in a vehicle or on horseback the 10x40's are fine. On foot with a long hike, my 8x20's are all I want.
As Ingwe said, optic quality is the trump card, after that your hunting situation will dictate what works best for you.


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It's hard to go wrong with 8x. An awful lot of folks like 10x, though some remark about image instability (shaking). Those remarks become more plentiful as you go to 12x and higher, and that's why you hear/read more about tripods with those bins.

I have loved my 8x42 Victory's, but I've also been able to appreciate the view through 10x's, too. If I had it to do all over again, I might well end up with the 10's.

You'd be best served to handle & look through as many pairs as you can, & come up with what works best for you. Size, weight, & ergonomics are awfully important, too.

I'd prioritize "Western Hunt" spending thusly:
1) Boots - you're in 'em all damned day, and maybe the night, too. Bad boots could really screw-up your hunt.
2) Binocs - you'll be glassing more than hiking, eating, maybe sleeping, and certainly shooting. You can't kill what you can't find. Make sure you get a pair that you can be really comfortable looking through all day long.
3) Everything else. grin

Let us know what you come up with.

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I have been using a quality 10x42 for over 20 years, now, and actually feel somewhat handicapped when borrowing my wife's 8x30. However, I use my binocular year round. It goes with me in my truck wherever I go, and I do quite a bit of birding and scouting in the "off seasons". If you only use your binocular sporadically, except while hunting, you will probably be more comfortable with a 6-8 power glass.


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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged

1) Boots -
2) Binocs -
3)really comfortable


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I have and use a set of Conquest HD 8X32's. They work very well, I love the huge field of view and compact size - but I do find times where a 10X might be a little better looking for horns at longer distances. Better yet is a nice spotter to go with the 8X's but a guy can only haul so much stuff up the mountains. Hard to go wrong with a good 10x42, but if you want a deal on a set of 8X32's to try PM me.


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I would take two, around 8x30 and 10x40. Both will probably come in useful, but depending on where you're hunting one will probably be more useful than the other.

Years ago I used to hunt with an 8x32 around my neck, and a 12x50 in the daypack for when I sat down and looked over bigger country. (And yes, there was a damn spotting scope and tripod in the pack as well.) But then Leica came out with the 8+12x42 Duovid and my binocular problems were solved. Luckily, I got 'em when they were half the price they are now....


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10x42 all the way for me... I have a lot of glass and the 10x42s get almost all the work almost all the time.


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged

1) Boots -
2) Binocs -
3)really comfortable


That was an awful lot of wind, to say this.......grin


Aw, hell, I didn't even get started on underwear�

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10x40/42, etc. by a long shot. 8x40/42, etc wouldn't scare me to much. I've used both and powers well below and above the 8/10x realm, but I've never reached over a pair of 10x's for 8's.

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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
It's hard to go wrong with 8x. An awful lot of folks like 10x, though some remark about image instability (shaking). Those remarks become more plentiful as you go to 12x and higher, and that's why you hear/read more about tripods with those bins.

I have loved my 8x42 Victory's, but I've also been able to appreciate the view through 10x's, too. If I had it to do all over again, I might well end up with the 10's.

You'd be best served to handle & look through as many pairs as you can, & come up with what works best for you. Size, weight, & ergonomics are awfully important, too.

I'd prioritize "Western Hunt" spending thusly:
1) Boots - you're in 'em all damned day, and maybe the night, too. Bad boots could really screw-up your hunt.
2) Binocs - you'll be glassing more than hiking, eating, maybe sleeping, and certainly shooting. You can't kill what you can't find. Make sure you get a pair that you can be really comfortable looking through all day long.
3) Everything else. grin

Let us know what you come up with.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
10x42 is the overall favorite.

I use Swarovski 8x30s and prefer them. I can see horns on critters so far away that I can't get to them on the same day. I figure its all I need to know, and the 8x30s are lighter...


That's important for you old guys.... grin

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My bino of choice generally revolves around Big Muddy.

West of it - 10x
East of it - 8 or 6x.


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