Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Took a drink of the Kimber KoolAid

Pretty funny stuff. On a side note, I recited the entire "Life Cereal" commercial to my kids the other day. They wanted to know who the heck Mikey was...


Ok, that's enough. Back to whining and bitching about other people's schit.

How else would you shoot a 300 anything that weighs ~7lbs and see your hits/misses?

WTF do you have to see hits?.....
WTF do you need a liteweight rifle for "Sitting at a bench shooting a 6 pound 300 WSM rifle all day" anyhow?


Personally, when I see the critters legs sticking up in the air, that's all I need. Never was as important to me, to see impact as it was results......

As someone with compromised hearing, the LAST thing I'd do is a brake. They are louder, even with muffs, than one without. So really, more decibels don't make your argument about noise protection very valid now, does it? Like 16' said, it is YOU paying the bills and pulling the trigger, and you've done went and convinced yerself that your choice is the right one for you.

enjoy......

LMAO, I'll file that one away......

I kinda liked 'trix are for kids'......

I gotta admit, I've run outta give a schit about LW rifles. The effort to shave a pound is hardly worth it and the return is zilch. Sorry, but boots and the rest of the schit that gets lugged around make a bigger difference.

And yes, that's my Montana. And no I ain't married to it.

"2015 Thunderdome Battle Royale: Two Rifles Enter, One Gets Sold"

Coming soon to a thread near you.....

A couple of things. I had a Kimber Montana in 300 wsm set up exactly as bsa outlined - Talley lows with Leupy 3-9x40. The rifle weighed 6 lb 15 oz. Contrary to most manly men, I found the combination of light rifle and thin barrel (r.e. muzzle rise) to outright SUCK from the bench with full power 180/200 gr loads. Likely its just me and my wimpiness that didn't like it - but that rifle set-up will recoil a bit.

I'd not advocate putting a break on it. In order, I would: 1. shoot it with the desired loads. See if the recoil is objectionable, 2. If recoil was objectionable, I'd go with reduced loads. I guarantee you can get 2950 with 63-65 grains of H4350 under a 180 - leave the last 50-75 ft/sec on the table, 3. Sell the Kimber and get a M70 Extreme Weather in 300 WSM. The EW will weigh right at 8lbs, likely a shade under with Talley's and a reasonable Leupy. That extra bit of weight tames recoil significantly. I've dragged my EW over many miles of 9-11,000 foot elevation elk mountains and never noticed the extra 14-16 oz. Lose an extra pound from your pack and you'll be at the same net weight.

My 300 WSM with Vari-x III 4.5-14. It sees only 150-168 projectiles as I have bigger guns if I want to shoot more weight. I'm a fairly big guy at 6'4" and 240#'s but its not uncomfortable for me off the bench after 50 or so RDS.

For me once load selection is done and scope zeroed my rifles don't see a lot of bench rest time outside of varmint guns so I'm not a fan of breaks either.

Put on the (brakes)









Turn around!

And go back and trade it for a 7 mm/08.

Shod

If you need/insist on a brake you bought the wrong rifle. Go .308 or 7-08 or .243 or ...........use your imagination.

Congratulations on buying the Kimber. You probably will learn to love it. I do mine.

I had a Tikka T3 Lite Stainless 300WSM that had a brake. Shot it much on the bench dialing it in and more so dialing me in. I shot it one day in the woods. Painful! I picked up a new Kimber 8400 300 WSM. (Montana) Shooting it on the bench (no brake)is about the same as the Tikka with brake. That synthetic stock appears to absorb considerable shock.

My set up;
For moose
Limbsaver recoil pad
Leupold VX3 2.5-8
Talley lightweights - I see no advantage to a one piece and they look ugly to me.
Winchester brass, primers.
Book max(+) H4350
165 Barnes

Whitetail;
Same everything I load it . Don't need that much power.
57gr Varget
150 Partition
That still produces over 3000fps. Deadly deer dumper.

May I suggest you shoot the rifle before you add a brake. If you think the recoil a bit stiff, put a different pad on the butt. I put a Limbsaver on mine. Like it.

Personally, I WILL NEVER PUT A BRAKE ON ONE OF MY RIFLES. It diminishes the value of the rifle and is far too damaging to my hearing. Recoil reduction appears (to me) to be about the same as a good recoil reducing butt pad. There are good reasons that the experienced guys here on the Campfire are not recommending a brake.

Well, enjoy your Kimber, be safe, protect your hearing, shoot much, and have fun with it. Sure do like mine.

Jim

[quote=huntsman22]WTF do you have to see hits?.....
WTF do you need a liteweight rifle for "Sitting at a bench shooting a 6 pound 300 WSM rifle all day" anyhow?


Personally, when I see the critters legs sticking up in the air, that's all I need. Never was as important to me, to see impact as it was results.......

enjoy...... [/quote

It's not really the hits I want to be able to see as it is prospective misses.

The bench shooting is to get very comfortable and reliable with a hunting rifle. I have plenty of paper punchers that are a joy to shoot for funsies.

It's your dream, live it....

Sitting at a bench all day doesn't sound like a good way to get a rifle dialed in. Once I'm zeroed it's all field positions.

So let me ask you something -- When you show up at the range and other shooters are present, do you just pull your breaked rifle out and start hammering away? Do you at least warn people?

Don't know about you but at the range I always keep an eye out for what the people around me are doing and what they're shooting. When a guy shows up with a braked rifle, he doesn't need to warn me.

Might as well through the short barreled tacticool AR's in the pile as well.

If you are worried about the recoil at the bench just get a lead sled or put a sand bag between your shoulder and the butt or get a Past or just wear an extra coat AT THE BENCH.
Or you could do what I did and get yourself a 375H&H that weighs about 9lbs all in and shoot that off the bench about 20 times. After that you will never notice the recoil of a 30cal.
Like he said, leave the dick on the dog.
You have convinced yourself that you need a brake on this rifle. Just about everybody on this thread is trying to talk you out of it. Several of us have had braked rifles. Maybe there is a (hint...........) here?

Brakes suck! 308 doesn't need one. Or get a heavier rifle and you will be glad.

That's great, but do you want him shooting it next to you? Do you stay? I usually wear plugs and muffs, but been around a few brakes that were still too much for me. I have significant hearing loss though, so I'll admit I'm pretty sensitive about it.