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Jet: What were your friend's "issues with the Ruger African in the field"? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Ready
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Ed Stevenson examining the rifle of his (then) appreantise - said 9,3x64.


Revival of this old thread brought back memories of sitting around with Ed and Carl, talking rifles and sharing a breakfast of sheep and salmon at that old trapper cabin. Knowledgable rifle loonies and good guys of the kind we don't see often enough these days.


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Originally Posted by 458Win

And as my daughter so thoughtfully pointed out to her moose hunter this past season - the 9.3x64 is "cute, sort of like a little sister to the .375 Ruger"


Phil, that's just how a woman would describe it.

A man would more accurately describe the 9.3X64 as the classy, sexy little sister to the 375 Ruger...the little sister who you pine for but makes your worry that she might just be out of your league.

I must also take issue with your previous singular anecdote of the gunmaker who couldn't get a X64 to run any fastEr than a X62. Given the difference in case capacities, it's a physical impossibility that the X64 can't achieve higher velocities absent some extraneous factor. My 9.3X64 pretty easily pushes a 286 grain TSX or Partition at 2675 fps...something the 9.3X62 can only dream of.

As to the original question, I believe a rifle meeting the criteria specified could be built in 9.3X62, 9.3X64, 375 Ruger or 375 H&H. The terminal performance differences between the four cartridges don't amount to much. The pertinent question is, how much effort are you willing to put into your relationship with your rifle?

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Do the 9.3x64 Brenneke . I am on my 3rd and am quite fond of them Have taken them to Africa and home here in Canada. There are a number of us that are shooting the 64 and all are very happy with the round. HUNTINGDON die specialties has lots or RWS brass and dies so easy to get the brass right at home in the US.


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That's excellent rifle-loony "logic": Buy a rifle in XYZ chambering because a group of rifle loony buddies likes it!


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Originally Posted by CanadianLefty

The 9.3x62:

Pros: Same as above, less recoil, greater ammo availability everywhere. Can hold up to 5 down.

Cons: Not the power level of either the 375 Ruger or the 9.3x64 Brenneke and only meets min. legal requirements in Zim for energy levels.

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Build the 9.3 X 62 and you'll soon hunt evrythig you can with it. That is a great cartridge! IF you ever go to Zim, take the .416 along to keep them happy.


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You guys do realize this thread is almost 5 years old??????


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
That's excellent rifle-loony "logic": Buy a rifle in XYZ chambering because a group of rifle loony buddies likes it!


Perfectly, John, I have purchased/built six 9.3x62 rifles during the past 9 years and had several .338WMs and two .375H&H rifles when I got my first in May, 2006....some "Looney" from Montana, sorta talked me into it..... smile

Seems perfectly normal to me, my spouse, wellllll.....

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Yeah, that can happen!

I've gotten to the point where I rarely own more than one rifle in a certain chambering. Well, with a few exceptions....


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In my Ruger African in 9.3x62 I'm getting 2650 fps with 250 grain Accubonds using Mule Deer's RL-15 data. With my Ruger Alaskan in 375, I'm getting 2772 fps with a 250 grain Barnes TTSX and H-380. You decide!

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5 years old or not, this couldn't have appeared at a better time for me, here's to reading old schitt!


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A baron would pick .370 Sako. The .375 Ruger, 9,3x62 and 9,3x64 are peasant cartridges not so the 9,3x66. What someone else likes or uses is of no consequence to me and "following the heard" is boring.

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Originally Posted by 458Win
It is probably a safe bet that there are already a lot more 375 Rugers in the world than there are 9.3x64's.


I think it's a safe bet that the opposite is the case.
The 375 Ruger is hardly sold outside the US and Canada. As big as that market may be - at least in Europe there are still thousands of 9,3x64 being used. Looking at an online platform for used guns for Germany only, there at least a dozen 9,3x64 bolt actions for sale at any time.
Pretty sure there are quite a few spread all over Africa as well. In Russia it is used by the military as a sniper cartridge. Cheap ammo available from there.

Just my 50 cents.

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Was at a gun show this weekend; guess what I saw? Selling a few old boxes of 9.3x64 Brenneke TUG (sp?). I almost bought them to then get a rifle smile

I'm now looking at keeping it simple with maybe a .338 to go with my 375.

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Originally Posted by Hamburg81
Originally Posted by 458Win
It is probably a safe bet that there are already a lot more 375 Rugers in the world than there are 9.3x64's.


I think it's a safe bet that the opposite is the case.
The 375 Ruger is hardly sold outside the US and Canada. As big as that market may be - at least in Europe there are still thousands of 9,3x64 being used. Looking at an online platform for used guns for Germany only, there at least a dozen 9,3x64 bolt actions for sale at any time.
Pretty sure there are quite a few spread all over Africa as well. In Russia it is used by the military as a sniper cartridge. Cheap ammo available from there.

Just my 50 cents.


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From another Lefty smile

I bought a .375 Ruger guide gun just because....

The action was a bit rough and gritty, but smoothed up nicley with a bit of polishing here and there. Feeding is perfect with spritzer and round nose bullets. Accuracy is excellent right around 1 inch with everything. Iron sights are right on at 50 yards.

The gun fits me very well, easy to get behind and surprisingly is the easiest rifle to shoot off hand. It holds really steady and have no problem ringing steel targets off hand out to 200 yards.
Recoil is a big push with the brake and pretty sharp w/o.

Weight with sling and 3 rounds is 9 1/2lbs.

Rifle will not go to Africa but will be used in Alaska and here for elk.

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The 375 Ruger is my favorite medium bore - a truly practical modern design.

However, I still think the best use for a Ruger Hawkeye African (or Alaskan) is as a platform to re-bore to a proper heavy medium - the 404 Ruger cartridge! smile


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Re-bore the 30-06 barrel to 9.3X62 and call it good. JES will do it for $225.00, including return shipping.

http://35caliber.com/2.html


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Nice classic 9.3x64 Brenneke for sale on GunsAmerica.com; needs a little work.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/921129824/WILHELM-BRENNEKE-MAUSER-9-3X64.htm

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From what little I know about heavy and plains African game, can't think of much I couldn't do with my 9.3-62 loaded with 320 gr Woodleigh softs and solids to 2400 fps.

That combo is a real hammer and one of the most efficient cartridges on the '06 sized case.


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