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That is what the latest gun rags and recent loading manuals are telling me, and I am surprised. I am certain that with heavier bullets (not needed in the Whelen) the 375 Ruger would pull away some, but according to the articles I have just read and what I see in load data, all three push a 250gr bullet to 2500-2600fps.
NOW I am seeing why the old timers loved or at least revered elthis round so much! This Whelen cartridge is a powerful workhorse of a cartridge.
I just managed to wiggle my way into my very first ever 35 Whelen, and got it pretty cheap because it is a re bored from 30/06 model 7600. I put a Burris 30mm tube 1x-5x33 scope atop it and so far I like it a lot. Going to run 250gr Interlocks and / or 225gr TSX's through it and try to smack and elk with it post Kidney transplant and recovery. Maybe a black bear, too.
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I think you need to recheck the 375 Ruger load data. It looks like you are selling it a bit short. Hodgdon lists loads getting over 2900fps for a 250gr bullet.
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I think you need to recheck the 375 Ruger load data. It looks like you are selling it a bit short. Hodgdon lists loads getting over 2900fps for a 250gr bullet.
Yeah. The 375 Ruger l had did over 2800 fps with 270 gr factory loads. 2900 with a 250 in the Ruger should be easy.
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Best of luck on your transplant surgery!
I'm only loading my .375 H&H Number one to 2620 fps with the 260 gr Nosler Accubond. Load from John Barsness, and doggone it's accurate. Have been using it for black bear, and it's working like a champ. Not much different from a warm .35 Whelen 250 gr load.
I kind of like those medium bore rifles, with bullets sort of loping along nice and easy like.
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Nosler says a max velocity of 2941 with a 260 grain and 2715 with a 300 grain for the 375 Ruger. Might want to check your data again....
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Does it really matter? What in North American is going to walk away from a well-placed shot from either?
A 250 grain .35 Whelen bullet at 2500 FPS would work on blue whales.
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Recheck your data. Barnes shows 3000+ with 235s and 2800+ with 270s in the 375 Ruger.
I would worry more about shot placement than what goes what speed.
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Correct me if wrong...
doesn't the 375 Ruger case have a 308 diameter head ?
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375 Ruger is a .532 case head I'm pretty sure
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375 Ruger is a .532 case head I'm pretty sure yept...you're right...must be thinking another cartridge http://www.nosler.com/375-ruger
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Whelen is great, but it's got nowhere near 375 ballistics. Check your data.
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I have both and the .375 Ruger has way more jam. My 22" Whelen throws a 225gr TSX at 2700fps. 250gr will do 2500-2550fps.
My 20" .375 Ruger Alaskan throws a 250gr TTSX at 2750fps.
So just with this basic real world comparison, the .375 Ruger throws the same 250gr bullet 200-250fps faster with a 2" shorter barrel. This means that its probably more like 250-300 fps with same barrel length. I'm sure the difference will grow bigger with heavier 270gr and 300gr bullets.
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Correct me if wrong...
doesn't the 375 Ruger case have a 308 diameter head ?
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I'm getting 2510 with a 270 and 62 grains of IMR4895 from a 3.11" OAL and a 20" carbine.
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I'm getting 2510 with a 270 and 62 grains of IMR4895 from a 3.11" OAL and a 20" carbine. From your Steyer? My 375 Ruger data came from the latest issue of Rifleshooter magazine. None of my manuals are new enough for 375 Ruger data to be in. I did have data for the Steyer round. I stand corrected! and that 375 Ruger data did look pretty sad and weak to me. Once again we see to NOT trust the gun rags. With a 416 Rigby in the stable, as well as a superfast 33, I am thinking I have the bases covered for all of the big stuff going forward. The Whelen is my short, fast, lightweight for situations where that is a better fit than a 10.5LB, long barreled 338 super.
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That is what the latest gun rags and recent loading manuals are telling me, and I am surprised. I am certain that with heavier bullets (not needed in the Whelen) the 375 Ruger would pull away some, but according to the articles I have just read and what I see in load data, all three push a 250gr bullet to 2500-2600fps.
NOW I am seeing why the old timers loved or at least revered elthis round so much! This Whelen cartridge is a powerful workhorse of a cartridge.
I just managed to wiggle my way into my very first ever 35 Whelen, and got it pretty cheap because it is a re bored from 30/06 model 7600. I put a Burris 30mm tube 1x-5x33 scope atop it and so far I like it a lot. Going to run 250gr Interlocks and / or 225gr TSX's through it and try to smack and elk with it post Kidney transplant and recovery. Maybe a black bear, too.
My .375 Ruger African does 2880 fps MV with Barnes TTSX 250 grainers and 2800 fps MV with Barnes TSX 270 gr. bullets, both very accurate and at less than max. velocities. Don't know what or where you read it, but the data in the gun rags is simply wrong. The .375 Steyr is an anemic excuse for a .375, which probably accounts for it being nearly extinct.
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That is what the latest gun rags and recent loading manuals are telling me, and I am surprised. I am certain that with heavier bullets (not needed in the Whelen) the 375 Ruger would pull away some, but according to the articles I have just read and what I see in load data, all three push a 250gr bullet to 2500-2600fps.
NOW I am seeing why the old timers loved or at least revered elthis round so much! This Whelen cartridge is a powerful workhorse of a cartridge.
I just managed to wiggle my way into my very first ever 35 Whelen, and got it pretty cheap because it is a re bored from 30/06 model 7600. I put a Burris 30mm tube 1x-5x33 scope atop it and so far I like it a lot. Going to run 250gr Interlocks and / or 225gr TSX's through it and try to smack and elk with it post Kidney transplant and recovery. Maybe a black bear, too.
Can't wait for this train wreck..
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![[Linked Image]](http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/kellet1/IMG_20140918_135957_zps2db3089a.jpg) this from a 2-7 VX-R.
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Great shooting there, and obviously a good shooting rifle, too.
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