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If you want a blood trail with a 223 yet still have plenty of penetration, your best bet is the Nosler 64 Bonded Solid Base. Push it as fast as you can. I will loading up some of these Friday night to give 'em a try over the next several weeks.
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65 grain GK kills deer dead.
This has been my experience as well. Also had good results with the 55TSX. Loaded some 50 grain GMX last night to try in a Ruger 77 I picked up with a 9 twist. Hoping the wife and daughter each stick one through a deer with the rig. Going to try the Nosler solid base as well. Shooting session Sunday with the rig...
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I guess I should lung shoot one with the 62TSX for R&D to see for myself.
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The 70gr. is more of a good thing.........
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I've flattened deer with factory fed's 62gr BBC's and 55 grain V-max handloads. They made little to no movement after impact and made me wonder why I shoot any caliber larger. All put in the engine room and never had a need for anywhere else. You can track deer without a blood trail even in heavy cover.
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You can track deer without a blood trail even in heavy cover.
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If you want a blood trail use a .270 Winchester.
It will just be a very shot blood trail. He's seven. For the record I shot a buck last year with a 270 and 130 grain TTSX that ran 100ish yards and never left a drop of blood either. 130gr NBT will fix that. Unless of course you are a gut shooter.
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you need a 150 grain Sierra gameking from a 30-06 for a good gut shot.
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You can track deer without a blood trail even in heavy cover.
??? They DO leave signs of their passage...
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Yes. But certainly easier in some areas than others.
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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A couple of years ago (I think) there was thread about using 223 on deer. Guys posted their rifles and harvested animals. Wish I could find that thread?? Anyone by chance remember??
Several guys used Barns bullets down to 40 grs. (I think), regularly and with good success!!
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No doubt the 223 is sufficient for killing deer but I was hoping one bullet would stand out as leaving better blood trails. From everything I have read it all bullets in the 223 are hit and miss when it comes to leaving blood trails.
I am going to get him a bolt gun and have it twisted 1-8. His 16 inch single shot is just to loud. I will probably try something heavier next year.
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I've killed a bunch with several different bullets and have seen a bunch else killed with several different bullets. Can't comment on blood trail as I've yet to have a deer shot with a 223/AI go further than a few steps.
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I have found the 53gr. TSX and the 55gr. TTSX to leave a good blood trail.
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A couple of years ago (I think) there was thread about using 223 on deer. Guys posted their rifles and harvested animals. Wish I could find that thread?? Anyone by chance remember??
Several guys used Barns bullets down to 40 grs. (I think), regularly and with good success!! Theres a new thread on the subject every couple weeks....just stand by.....  And +1 on what steelhead said....I haven't needed a blood trail yet...after 27 kills with the Barnes/cf .22 combo...
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I could hunt deer for the rest of my life with a 22 caliber and not feel handicapped.
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Another +1 to what steelie said...
Ive killed 2 deer in the past 10 years with something other than a .22 cf....
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I've shot sheit with a bunch of different stuff. Can't count how many different rifles/cartridges have been used in the past 10 years.
That said, I trust my 223Ai the mostest, followed closely by the 250AI.
Can't wait to flame a deer with the Krag. I'm pretty sure of what the results will be.
180gr enters deer, deer runs 30 yards, deer dies.
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As I've said before, if I could redo my life I'd own two 223AI's, one light, one heavy and two 308's, one light and one heavy.
That would cover me for everything in NA.
I'd of course have to have a Savage 99 in 300 Savage, because everyone should own one.
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